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Just curious if any clubs are having other clubs from neighbouring parishes or counties encroaching on their designated parish. My own club is having this problem, with some serious underhand tactics being used by the latter club, even handing out leadlets in our only within the area. Do the GAA offer any way of protecting your area? any guidance on the correct route to take on this?

BluenYellow (Louth) - Posts: 90 - 20/02/2018 17:06:10    2078789

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Replying To BluenYellow:  "Just curious if any clubs are having other clubs from neighbouring parishes or counties encroaching on their designated parish. My own club is having this problem, with some serious underhand tactics being used by the latter club, even handing out leadlets in our only within the area. Do the GAA offer any way of protecting your area? any guidance on the correct route to take on this?"
I take it you are a Tones man BluenYellow. I feel sorry for the Tones. Their pitch is in Meath and the housing estate across the road is in Meath. If they change the border and put all of Grange Rath and the neighbouring housing estates in to the Wee County that would help the Tones.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 11527 - 20/02/2018 17:19:33    2078792

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I think it is a problem in many counties with so-called stronger clubs trying to poach from smaller clubs nearby

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1342 - 20/02/2018 17:30:17    2078798

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Replying To OLLIE:  "I take it you are a Tones man BluenYellow. I feel sorry for the Tones. Their pitch is in Meath and the housing estate across the road is in Meath. If they change the border and put all of Grange Rath and the neighbouring housing estates in to the Wee County that would help the Tones."
Was trying to keep club names out of it hahaha, guess my name doesnt help.
Its just hard enough to be fighting against other sports for young peoples time and committment, but to also have to fight neighbouring clubs is making it even harder. We are not asking for grange rath or any other estates that are in Meath just for protection to keep our own areas especially within the only primary school in our catchment.
There is also a relatively unknown issue were Louth made an agreement with Meath in the 70s, were Louth succeeded land, part of our catchment, to Meath. Meaning we cannot approach or advertised in these now "Louth housing estates".

BluenYellow (Louth) - Posts: 90 - 20/02/2018 17:41:11    2078802

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Replying To BluenYellow:  "Was trying to keep club names out of it hahaha, guess my name doesnt help.
Its just hard enough to be fighting against other sports for young peoples time and committment, but to also have to fight neighbouring clubs is making it even harder. We are not asking for grange rath or any other estates that are in Meath just for protection to keep our own areas especially within the only primary school in our catchment.
There is also a relatively unknown issue were Louth made an agreement with Meath in the 70s, were Louth succeeded land, part of our catchment, to Meath. Meaning we cannot approach or advertised in these now "Louth housing estates"."
Ah sure that was forty years ago. You have to go with times. Not having a pop at the Cilles but they probably have the biggest catchment area in Meath anyway. Grange Rath is the largest housing estate in Drogheda but it's in Meath. Could you you imagine Grange Rath, Deepeforde, Hazel Lane, Millmount Abbey, Ard Ri, Lagavooren Manor and Avourwen to name but a few all in the Wee County and in the Tones territory.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 11527 - 20/02/2018 19:14:26    2078824

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Ah sure that was forty years ago. You have to go with times. Not having a pop at the Cilles but they probably have the biggest catchment area in Meath anyway. Grange Rath is the largest housing estate in Drogheda but it's in Meath. Could you you imagine Grange Rath, Deepeforde, Hazel Lane, Millmount Abbey, Ard Ri, Lagavooren Manor and Avourwen to name but a few all in the Wee County and in the Tones territory."
It was 40 years ago but it is still legally binding. We've lost players due to their address location within the succeeded lands.

BluenYellow (Louth) - Posts: 90 - 20/02/2018 19:52:04    2078839

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Replying To BluenYellow:  "Just curious if any clubs are having other clubs from neighbouring parishes or counties encroaching on their designated parish. My own club is having this problem, with some serious underhand tactics being used by the latter club, even handing out leadlets in our only within the area. Do the GAA offer any way of protecting your area? any guidance on the correct route to take on this?"
I come from currin club. Mostly in county monaghan, part in fermanagh and a bit in cavan.

I think the ulster council ruled that the fermanagh part of the club Is part of currin which is under the monaghan county board jurisdiction.

Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 356 - 20/02/2018 20:04:01    2078844

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Na Piarsaigh in Limerick encroach into Meelick parish in County Clare. All of Coonagh is Meelick parish but they all play with Na Piarsaigh .. Kevin Downes ect. Also N.a Piarsaigh have the puck of about 5 northside Parishes in Limerick city itself ...an almost unlimited supply if talent. I'd say they have a pick of about 35,000

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 20/02/2018 21:49:59    2078874

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Very grey area this for the GAA. While most players will play within their parish of residence or birth I think it is becoming increasingly more common that the boundaries are getting diluted. I think a large reason for this is actually the primary schools. For parents the biggest thing is that their child is happy and the "fit in" when they bring them down to the club for their taste of GAA life.

I have seen many situations where a primary school may feed two or three clubs and parents want to keep their children with their friends by letting them play with the club the bulk of their friends are playing with even if it is not their own club according to the boundaries.

In one particular example there is a primary school which is actually within the boundary of our neighboring club, who we would share a strong rivalry with but the school is included in all activities and events of our parish. By right all the children should be playing with the neighboring club but we tend to have a decent % of them. It often tends to go from class to class. If the bulk of say 1st class is going to club nextdoor then the rest follow. The Senior infants coming after them could all play with us then.

TheFullBack (Galway) - Posts: 110 - 21/02/2018 15:00:01    2079000

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I always thought that a Might Ducks style district maps should be drawn up and be presided over by the provincial councils. I would have a few caveats around primary school attended and parents & grandparents home club. Other than that you should play where you are from. It would encourage county boards to ensure all clubs have good facilities and coaching set up to ensure good county teams. I know there'd be a few Adam Banks but essentially up until minor county boards should be looking at loads of kids looking to move with no real problems with clubs. Up until minor GAA should be about community and enjoyment.

WheresDeBallBag (Louth) - Posts: 356 - 22/02/2018 09:14:25    2079147

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Na Piarsaigh in Limerick encroach into Meelick parish in County Clare. All of Coonagh is Meelick parish but they all play with Na Piarsaigh .. Kevin Downes ect. Also N.a Piarsaigh have the puck of about 5 northside Parishes in Limerick city itself ...an almost unlimited supply if talent. I'd say they have a pick of about 35,000"
If Kevin Downes is a Clare is seems to be news to his uncle and both his parents, as when I put that proposition to them, they all in no uncertain fashion assured me that Kevin, and indeed all the Downeses, were Limeric people through and through.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1653 - 23/02/2018 13:30:46    2079458

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Na Piarsaigh in Limerick encroach into Meelick parish in County Clare. All of Coonagh is Meelick parish but they all play with Na Piarsaigh .. Kevin Downes ect. Also N.a Piarsaigh have the puck of about 5 northside Parishes in Limerick city itself ...an almost unlimited supply if talent. I'd say they have a pick of about 35,000"
Coonagh is in limerick not Clare.

Tadhgmacda (Limerick) - Posts: 85 - 23/02/2018 16:07:02    2079512

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Replying To Bernardo:  "I come from currin club. Mostly in county monaghan, part in fermanagh and a bit in cavan.

I think the ulster council ruled that the fermanagh part of the club Is part of currin which is under the monaghan county board jurisdiction."
Aw now, did we really have to own up to the Cavan dimension?

Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 240 - 24/02/2018 22:46:49    2079846

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