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Dublin for Liam. Oh I forgot millions and millions of euros cannot buy you hurling All Irelands. Sorry I made a mistake with my opening line. Sometimes money cannot buy you sucess. Pat Gilroy is finding out this the hard way with the not so natural Dublin hurlers.
LiamH2000 (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 18/02/2018 21:25:07 2078112 Link 3 |
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Was sent a link to this during the week. Lost a lot of respect for Paddy. If you want to walk away fine but why does he have to mention he thinks the team is going backwards in the interview, it seems spiteful (despite today's game I would say the jury is still out on this one, for many years Meath have being a middle of the road division 2 team, finishing 3'rd or 4'th in the division most years). He is making little of his former teammates. Also have to think part of the reason for his decision which he does not mention in the article is that the way he has not adapted well to the way the game has moved with regards kickouts. Last year he kicked many short kickouts to opponent's or over the sideline and often gifted the opposition at least one score in most games. This has been a big talking point after many games and he was far from certain to be first choice for Meath this year. After reading the article Meath are defiantly better off without him. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1337 - 18/02/2018 21:28:16 2078114 Link 3 |
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Pat Gilroy is finding it hard to make a sucessful team out of a group of not very natural hurlers. The Dubs and the GAA may get out the checkbook again and put a few more zeros down and buy a couple of Tipp and kilkenny men to win liam Mcarthy. It worked for Dublin in the past. Dublin won 7 hurling all ireland with country men. Only 2 men born and bred in Dublin have All Ireland hurling medals. So Gilroy know the key sucess. 15 Dublin men have never and will never win Liam Mcarhty. In second thoughts seen Dublin won 5 football Irelands with 10 million euros. Id say you could buy 1 All Ireland senior hurling title for 20 million. The Beatles said you cannot buy love. But you sure can buy All Ireland sucess. The evidence is the Dubs who are Man City and PSG rolled into one. Dublin for liam 2025.
LiamH2000 (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 18/02/2018 21:42:43 2078121 Link 2 |
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fermanagh and meath have alot in common....niether of us will be in division 1 next year
abitawit (Fermanagh) - Posts: 274 - 18/02/2018 21:59:18 2078136 Link 4 |
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I think Bernard Flynn has probably summed up most of Meath supporters feelings. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2018 20:08:05 2078846 Link 2 |
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I remember he Got brutally attacked with words on Twitter. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 20/02/2018 20:53:50 2078858 Link 1 |
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Paddy's comments have gained plenty of column inches anyway. He portrayed a defeatist attitude which have been met by disdain on social media. But it just shows you how far Meath have fallen when players give up the jersey like that. ISupposeSoSheehan (Meath) - Posts: 86 - 21/02/2018 17:07:24 2079031 Link 1 |
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Some pancakes and sugar to go with those lemons
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/02/2018 17:13:10 2079035 Link 1 |
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I don't understand the stick this lad is getting for just being honest. He probably laid it on a bit too thick with the 'no chance of winning' bit but the general points he makes on the demands being made on inter county players across the board seem sensible to me. Joe Brolly & others have made similar enough arguments in the recent past. KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 21/02/2018 18:13:34 2079043 Link 3 |
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You're right of course. One of the Limerick hurlers made the exact same point as Paddy just a few days ago. The only difference is that the hurler in question is still playing for the county because he still has hopes of winning silverware. The demands on intercounty players is now at crazy levels. The work/life balance is completely askew (and playing for your county is now akin to having a second full time job because of the commitment involved. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 21/02/2018 19:04:26 2079063 Link 2 |
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I'd feel the same. The demands are huge and the social media tough with all the criticism. Players are entitled to walk away and people should be slower to stick the boot in on him. It's just his opinion which he's entitled to give. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 21/02/2018 19:26:37 2079067 Link 2 |
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jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 21/02/2018 20:56:19 2079082 Link 0 |
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Sam Spudz ..
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 21/02/2018 21:09:36 2079083 Link 2 |
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Is that your new sponsor?
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 21/02/2018 21:13:30 2079084 Link 1 |
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Surely the man is entitled to look at what's going on in his life and prioritise what's important to him. I wonder how many if those criticising him give the same commitment to anything that was going to be required of him this year? I for one don't blame him or any player for calling it a day if they feel their heart isn't in it. The commitment required has gotten out of hand and by the time you take your relationships and work commitments into account some players are always going to have to make a judgement call. In the end how many give a toss about him when he walks off the pitch after a match and goes home? Not many I reckon, but he has to still live his life and keep everybody happy. He obviously look at things and let go of the thing he found most pressurising and least rewarding in his life. That was the healthy choice for him and he shouldn't have to listen to bull about it. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 21/02/2018 22:46:52 2079106 Link 1 |
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Was he really being completely honest or did he leave some things out?. He never said he was under pressure due to some disastrous kickouts where instead of picking out a man he passed to an opposition player and gifted a score. Many felt he was not wort his place, especially after his performance against Louth. This year he would not have been a certain starter.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1337 - 21/02/2018 23:02:58 2079111 Link 0 |
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If he doesn't want to play for his county any more I'm sure Andy McEntee will find a goalkeeper who will make the necessary commitment to play for Meath. I don't understand why he is suddenly concerned with not winning provincials and All Ireland's. Most intercounty players will never win silverware or any sort of glory but that makes their commitment to their county jersies even better. There must be more to this than he's saying. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 21/02/2018 23:11:18 2079113 Link 1 |
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That is correct...At the start of the year Paddy was not going to be a certain starter, and from what I heard last November he was told this also like a lot of players ! It's the same for every team no player is certain of his place and every manger says that at the start of a new training year to every footballer that you have to fight for your place ! Even the great Bernard Brogan was never certain of his place on the team...but thats what I believe that makes Dublin great and how Jim Gavin gets the best out of all the Dublin players by making no guarantees and have them fighting and wanting to play for their place on the Dublin team !
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 21/02/2018 23:23:15 2079117 Link 3 |
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But you're making it a personal issue as a Meath man. You might be right about him losing his place, you would know better than me.....but regardless that's completely not the point. Taking the interview at face value he makes some valid points about the demands on players. As someone else said, Shane Dowling from limerick has said similar things this week, and in fact was even more critical if anything...it could be any player from any county. Things have gotten crazy for players & I've no idea why anyone would deny that. KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 22/02/2018 08:00:44 2079133 Link 0 |
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Awh lads he surely would have been starting sure he was the best player Louth had that day
WheresDeBallBag (Louth) - Posts: 458 - 22/02/2018 08:52:57 2079144 Link 0 |