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I think Tyrone need a change of tactics like the way Declan Bonner has Donegal playing now, looking forward to the Ulster championship now that we might at least play some proper attacking football, it's not easy cause Micky has been there so long but the fact is he may have stayed too long, Micko's recent documentary springs to mind where he admits he stayed to long in charge of Kerry, I'd look forward to seeing Tyrone throwing the shackles off. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2745 - 16/02/2018 15:50:40 2077427 Link 0 |
Many missing the point , if you-think they play the same as Dublin then surely they should try something different because they obviously are not good enough to play the same style as Dublin , they are obviously short of something yet the defense that they play the same as the champions somehow makes everything ok ??? Comparing styles is pointless a team in the Phoenix Park may try to play one touch keep ball football it doesn't make them Barcelona, for me Harte is deflecting and passing attention elsewhere, even the most diehard fan on here must admit the body language of a Tyrone player over last few years is hardly one of someone who enjoys what they are doing , Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 16/02/2018 16:21:06 2077438 Link 0 |
Some old tired rehashed rhetoric Fridge. There you go again stating that Mickey isn't infallible to criticism yet every time he is criticised you are straight on to discredit what we are saying and claiming that we must have some sort of axe to grind or some sort of ulterior motive. Your last point is the most depressing though. Essentially you don't care how we play as long as we win. This is exactly what is wrong with modern day Gaelic football. Who cares if the players hate playing it. Who cares about the supporters paying to watch it. Who cares about the generation of young people walking away from our game due to these systems. Who cares about our games being entertaining. As long as we win eh! You have just summed yourself up there. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 16/02/2018 21:00:44 2077505 Link 0 |
its actually quite unsettling how far people like 'fridge' will go to defend mickey harte. its almost cult-like. thankfully there are still plenty of good footballing folk in tyrone who havent been brainwashed and can think for themselves without the media. southtyronegael (Tyrone) - Posts: 19 - 16/02/2018 21:56:39 2077516 Link 0 |
Oh no no Wally. I think YOU have an agenda. Many people from Tyrone have been consistent on their criticism, you just seem to pick and choose. Name me the players who don't like playing for Tyrone? Past or present. You seem to think a team can pick how they want to win an all Ireland, we have won 3 in our history, we can't be picky can we? If we are good enough to get to an all Ireland and win it by playing fantastic high scoring football, great, that's a bonus. If we win it 9-8, I dont really care. Ive critised MH previously. He got it wrong last year against Dublin. Is that clear enough. He got his tactics wrong. But I feel he deserves another chance to right that wrong. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 16/02/2018 22:28:08 2077523 Link 0 |
I find it extremely funny that every time Wally says something you comment straight after saying essentially the same thing. Alot of the same phases and statements you both seem to use. Funny that. Some might think you two are the same person?
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 16/02/2018 22:31:01 2077524 Link 0 |
Are you joe brolly?
Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 595 - 16/02/2018 22:45:45 2077526 Link 0 |
Good comments. Another point is that the current Tyrone team are too clean. Modest, mannerly lads. I'd say nobody dreads playing them. All the greats have an edge. Current Tyrone team doesn't. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 16/02/2018 23:17:44 2077536 Link 0 |
Anyone saying Tyrone play exactly like Kerry, Dublin or Mayo is talking crap. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 17/02/2018 08:34:23 2077559 Link 1 |
Tyrone will not beat Dublin this year playing to their regular system. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 17/02/2018 08:46:09 2077561 Link 0 |
There you go again creating an argument to debate rather than sticking to topic. I never mentioned changing players. I have always said it was the system and management that needed to change. The current panel have my full backing and i consider them a very talented group of individuals. It was you who have said twice now that you couldn't care less how we play. So you have basically validated every argument i have made. Really you should stop now when you are so far behind. You are starting to make a fool out of yourself. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 17/02/2018 09:19:56 2077568 Link 0 |
The term clutching at straws comes to mind. Name one other time this person posted after me in a similar fashion? Honestly you should stop now. Your childish replys are getting embarrassing. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 17/02/2018 09:32:14 2077569 Link 0 |
"I have always said it was the system and management that needed to change." But Wally you haven't always said this. You clearly said in 2015 and 2016 that you defend Tyrone's system. Why are you not addressing this point? You clearly defended Tyrone on numerous cases. The evidence has been provided many times. It is only in the last 18 months that you have criticised Tyrone's system. You also lied about going to Tyrone games. Again the evidence is there. You have been inconsistent and flip flop your way though a season. Wally we have won 3 all Ireland's in our history. Haven't won in 10 years. Do you think we can be picky on how we win an all Ireland? I couldn't give a hoot if we score a fluke goal in the last minute or we score 5-20 as long as we win. Tyrone need any all Ireland they can get. Ask any county apart from the Dubs would they care how they win an all Ireland. I'm sure they wouldn't care. I would say if we won an all Ireland like the final between Kerry and Donegal which wasn't a great spectacle you would still be complaining that we didn't play swash buckling football. Wally just think before you type, and also read all the replies you receive before replying. Then your inconsistence and flip flopping may not be shown up. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/02/2018 10:44:56 2077589 Link 0 |
I don't agree with you on that Whammo. There are variations on it but it's the same template. If Tyrone don't turn the ball over straight away they drop back. All templates are based on turning sides over and then breaking at speed. The movement of Bradley against Donegal in this years championship was great. He was constantly on the move as soon as Tyrone won possession. Even when he wasn't getting the ball he was creating space for the other players then to move into. I still think Tyrones problem is they don't have that one special player, whether it be an o'neill, canavan, gooch, mcconville. There is a lot of talk about Lee Brennan, but from what I've seen he shares a lot of the traits mccurry and co have, hes to inconsistent.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 17/02/2018 11:42:04 2077599 Link 0 |
Tyrone haven't won a big game in Croke Park in nearly a decade, yet you think they're able to beat Mayo and Kerry?
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 17/02/2018 11:47:30 2077601 Link 0 |
Yawn!! I am bored with this now. You have yet to properly debate this topic. You constantly bring up these old quotes even though they have been refuted several times in the past as taken totally out of context regarding the topic of our managements approach and philosophy. You change subject every time you are proved wrong and you are now trying to claim other posters are me in disguise. You really need to take a long hard look at yourself sir and change your approach to debating on this forum as you have lost all credibility at this stage. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 17/02/2018 12:08:10 2077612 Link 0 |
We will agree to disagree. Until the next time Wally.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/02/2018 13:23:08 2077633 Link 0 |
Fair enough Fridge. Until next time.
Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 17/02/2018 14:08:22 2077643 Link 0 |
Yeah, I think they're capable of. They wouldn't be favourites but they'd have a very good chance. I'd be surprised if they'd be much more than 2 to 1 to win against either Mayo or Kerry. Against Dublin they should be very long odds. Rightly so, I think they've next to no chance of beating Dublin. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 17/02/2018 14:14:17 2077645 Link 0 |
When they were winning All Ireland's i think there was a deeply hostile agenda towards Tyrone from many within the GAA and Southern media BUT i don't know if it is still there now. They have been off the pace for so long that maybe Tyrone are over egging their own self importance and relevance within the football elite now. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9701 - 17/02/2018 14:14:40 2077646 Link 1 |