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Professor Niall Moyna says Dublin are too dominant

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Yerra, something needs to be done about Kerrys dominance, particularly in Munster.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 31/01/2018 13:46:12    2072778

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Yerra, something needs to be done about Kerrys dominance, particularly in Munster."
WOW great contribution there kid :-0

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/01/2018 14:08:04    2072786

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Yerra, something needs to be done about Kerrys dominance, particularly in Munster."
Its a valid point.
Dublins dominance of Leinster is regularly used as a point to show how their dominance has been bad for the game. Yet Kerrys Munster dominance, 16 titles out of the last 25 and currently unbeaten in Munster in 6 years seems largely forgotten.
How come?

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 31/01/2018 14:33:58    2072798

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Replying To galwayford:  "When Dublin have the same no. of All Irelands as Kerry then I will expect change. But they are still about 10 down.
Kildare and Meath are sleeping giants. They have a large population. And just need a Leinster title to kickstart their comeback. How about combining some of the smaller Leinster counties?
Eg Wexford, and Wicklow. Kilkenny and Carlow, Laois and Kildare, Meath and Westmeath- as a trial"
There's about as much chance of Kildare and Laois joining together as there is of Sinn Fein and the DUP joining forces.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2989 - 31/01/2018 15:00:14    2072809

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So since the introduction of games development grants Dublin have received €16m. The county who have received the most after Dublin is Cork at €1m. Are these figures correct?- one understands the importance of urban GAA with the growth of Leinster rugby. But come on is it time the GAA looked at these grants?

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 31/01/2018 15:13:21    2072814

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Replying To galwayford:  "When Dublin have the same no. of All Irelands as Kerry then I will expect change. But they are still about 10 down.
Kildare and Meath are sleeping giants. They have a large population. And just need a Leinster title to kickstart their comeback. How about combining some of the smaller Leinster counties?
Eg Wexford, and Wicklow. Kilkenny and Carlow, Laois and Kildare, Meath and Westmeath- as a trial"
How about not merging counties as the All Ireland Championship is inter county, not inter county and a few smaller counties merged together, because GAA top brass don't care.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 31/01/2018 15:16:00    2072816

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "WOW great contribution there kid :-0"
Yeah it's as valid as every whiney post yourself and thehermit make about Dublin in every thread. That was the point.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 31/01/2018 15:19:36    2072819

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Replying To keithlemon:  "Its a valid point.
Dublins dominance of Leinster is regularly used as a point to show how their dominance has been bad for the game. Yet Kerrys Munster dominance, 16 titles out of the last 25 and currently unbeaten in Munster in 6 years seems largely forgotten.
How come?"
It sure Is a valid point in 97 years only once has the Munster championship been won from a team other than Kerry and cork and I think that was 1923!!! With Kerry winning something in the region of 70 in the same period. KERRY were on on the pigs back for 100 years playing 2 games in a hurling province got them to a semi final they win all Ireland's playing 4 games!!! There was no bleeting from the aristocrats then when the system is completely stacked in there favour.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 31/01/2018 15:23:44    2072820

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Yeah it's as valid as every whiney post yourself and thehermit make about Dublin in every thread. That was the point."
Ah why don't you go back to making love to your Grandpa's scrapbook from 1947.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 31/01/2018 15:50:05    2072827

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No one has mentioned the games development figures released today Dublin games development allocation is down by 200k.

Ah well its only money! :)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 31/01/2018 15:58:53    2072829

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "It sure Is a valid point in 97 years only once has the Munster championship been won from a team other than Kerry and cork and I think that was 1923!!! With Kerry winning something in the region of 70 in the same period. KERRY were on on the pigs back for 100 years playing 2 games in a hurling province got them to a semi final they win all Ireland's playing 4 games!!! There was no bleeting from the aristocrats then when the system is completely stacked in there favour."
There was "bleating " actually just as there was when Kilkenny were playing 4 games to win a hurling All Ireland but that's a different argument and if you don't mind me saying, an exercise in deflection . It's a championship structure argument, what people are talking about on here is a funding imbalance argument and the reason why Dublin were given multiples of the funding other counties received. You can't change geography too easily but you can change how we level out the funding playing field.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 31/01/2018 16:08:03    2072831

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Ah why don't you go back to making love to your Grandpa's scrapbook from 1947."
Pages are all stuck together :(

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 31/01/2018 16:41:12    2072838

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Replying To kildare73:  "There was "bleating " actually just as there was when Kilkenny were playing 4 games to win a hurling All Ireland but that's a different argument and if you don't mind me saying, an exercise in deflection . It's a championship structure argument, what people are talking about on here is a funding imbalance argument and the reason why Dublin were given multiples of the funding other counties received. You can't change geography too easily but you can change how we level out the funding playing field."
Well said Kildare 73.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/01/2018 18:00:59    2072861

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Replying To TheUsername:  "No one has mentioned the games development figures released today Dublin games development allocation is down by 200k.

Ah well its only money! :)"
1,298,630 + Sports Council Money

Yeah only €1.3 million how will the Juggernaut survive on such a pittance!!!!

37thHeaven (Kerry) - Posts: 102 - 31/01/2018 18:14:48    2072865

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Replying To 37thHeaven:  "1,298,630 + Sports Council Money

Yeah only €1.3 million how will the Juggernaut survive on such a pittance!!!!"
Talent!

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 31/01/2018 18:24:50    2072867

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Replying To keithlemon:  "Its a valid point.
Dublins dominance of Leinster is regularly used as a point to show how their dominance has been bad for the game. Yet Kerrys Munster dominance, 16 titles out of the last 25 and currently unbeaten in Munster in 6 years seems largely forgotten.
How come?"
It's a football province bar the big 2 and Cork are in a lull period and Tipperary deserve respect for what they have achieved in the big ball the last decade or so

Whereas Leinster was a Football province with 5/6 strong teams playing attractive Football in front of huge crowds until the GAA distorted the landscape by injecting enormous sums of €€€€ one way and destroying a very vibrant and interesting competition for the neutral

Sadly the same will (and is already happening) on a national scale and the GAA are continuing to keep their heads in the sand...........................

37thHeaven (Kerry) - Posts: 102 - 31/01/2018 18:34:54    2072869

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Replying To 37thHeaven:  "1,298,630 + Sports Council Money

Yeah only €1.3 million how will the Juggernaut survive on such a pittance!!!!"
Ya cork were the next highest at 250,000 that's some disparity in all fairness .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/01/2018 18:39:10    2072870

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Mayo spent more than anyone else in 2016 and won nothing.

Dublin will always have more money and larger population than all other counties.

If the GAA want to cut funding fair enough. They have already cut funding to Dublin and are targeting the East coast with additional funding which will benefit many counties.

But in no way should Dublin hand over sponsorship revenue. Why bother to look for it and hand it over to CB's that have run themselves into the ground. That will be needed to fill the shortfall and I'd expect a far better deal on main sponsorship next time around. The last deal was done at a time of great uncertainty.

Cut funding sure but don't expect hand outs from Dublin's hard work and initiatives.

Again the argument is all about Dublin get. What about the millions that is generated directly off the back of Dublin GAA?

Let's have some balance to the argument for a change.. no?

The Spring Series has brought in millIons to central coffers to be redistributed to everyone. This was a Dublin CB initiative. 100%.

No other country brings that into the GAA. Not one.

That's only one example... so please let's have some balance for once and at least accept the FACT that Dublin brings in millions upon every other county...

But nah... it's always a lopsided argument made by those that it directly impacts on.. funny that!!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 31/01/2018 18:59:53    2072873

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Professor Niall Moyna is really only talking about football as Hurling/Camogie are alien sports and pay second fiddle in scholarships in his football only head. No time for him or what he has to say given the way he operates in DCU.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 31/01/2018 19:03:41    2072875

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Oh jeeze

I see the "per registered player" rubbish numbers are still going strong for some.

How convenient to hoover up such rubbish numbers handed to them by an ABD journalist attention seeker..

How convenient indeed :)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 31/01/2018 19:06:01    2072876

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