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The Allianz FL Thread (Division 2, 3 & 4)

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Replying To 11jm11:  "Would be a big win for Clare. Meath and louth for div 3?"
Great win for Clare and put us in serious trouble, on the positive side we are at home to Cork and Down with Louth away. All these have their own troubles. Need to stay in Div 2 to welcome you back next year.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1038 - 25/02/2018 16:07:42    2080021

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Cavan and Roscommon are showing how value the experience of one or two seasons in division 1 is when you drop down to division 2.

Roscommon's come from behind win in Thurles could decide who goes up to Division 1 in a couple of weeks time.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2189 - 25/02/2018 16:07:58    2080023

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Replying To foxes_denn:  "Caaavaaann. Someone from Monaghan laughed at me on here after I said we were going to walk division 2 after hammering Louth. Where are you now Monaghan bog warrior. Caaavaaann."
He have Ros down and tipp left calm down
1 thing though ye are safe which is something none of the other 7 are yet

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1093 - 25/02/2018 16:08:38    2080024

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Replying To foxes_denn:  "Caaavaaann. Someone from Monaghan laughed at me on here after I said we were going to walk division 2 after hammering Louth. Where are you now Monaghan bog warrior. Caaavaaann."
Not up yet, yeve been brilliant so far but still have to play roscommon and tipp who have been the best two teams in the division so far along with yerselves.

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 284 - 25/02/2018 16:10:15    2080025

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Replying To seadog54:  "Great win for Clare and put us in serious trouble, on the positive side we are at home to Cork and Down with Louth away. All these have their own troubles. Need to stay in Div 2 to welcome you back next year."
The welcome back you have us last year was brilliant. We would take a repeat again...........should we end up there:)

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 543 - 25/02/2018 16:18:39    2080030

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Replying To kildare73:  "The welcome back you have us last year was brilliant. We would take a repeat again...........should we end up there:)"
At the moment I would take that myself. Hopefully we can both remain where we are

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1038 - 25/02/2018 16:57:48    2080061

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Replying To seadog54:  "At the moment I would take that myself. Hopefully we can both remain where we are"
You guys have a chance. I'd be a lot less hopeful for us. I still think Meath will do enough to survive.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 543 - 25/02/2018 17:24:43    2080090

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Replying To foxes_denn:  "Caaavaaann. Someone from Monaghan laughed at me on here after I said we were going to walk division 2 after hammering Louth. Where are you now Monaghan bog warrior. Caaavaaann."
Don't get carried away yet..ye have a couple of big games to play..but well done today ye are in a brilliant position..

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 345 - 25/02/2018 17:40:12    2080105

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Big win for Laois in Aughrim they seem to be going the right way about things this year hard to believe they are in division 4 in the first place.

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 670 - 26/02/2018 09:40:06    2080337

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Very competitive Division 2 with a lot of teams still in the hunt for promotion. Cavan have put themselves in a great position though to get promoted.

Only two points separating Meath in second last position and Roscommon in second! Any of those teams has to be in with a chance of promotion and also relegation!

It'll be a very interesting last 3 games in anyways!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11766 - 26/02/2018 10:08:42    2080353

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Division 4 is down to 3 teams now, Antrim play laois and Carlow in their next two games and that will decide the division I'd imagine. 10 points have been enough for promotion in recent years but this year will require 12 to be sure. Carlow are going for our first promotion in 33 years, fingers crossed we can pull it off

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1096 - 26/02/2018 10:55:37    2080380

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Division 3 is very competitive, Any 2 of Armagh,Fermanagh,Longford and Westmeath can get the 2 promotion spots. Armagh look favourites to get the 1st spot, Westmeath v Fermanagh next weekend will be crucial for both sides. the relegation is between offaly sligo and wexford. Offaly's last couple of performances have been better but still think Offaly and Wexford will go down.

dec (None) - Posts: 198 - 26/02/2018 11:28:28    2080407

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I think Cavan are in a great position in terms of preparation for Donegal later on. Division 2 status is maintained (which was no guarantee post Mckenna cup and apparent disgruntlement) and a chance of promotion back to div 1. there are 3 tough games to go in the league and to my mind mind they get tougher as each fixture comes along, (suspect Tipp are destined for DIv 1 sooner or later).
I would contend we have enough about us to beat Down but wouldn't call the last two but if we can be really competitive in those games then I think the fixture gods have been kind to us in regarding to building for the championship.

kitog (UK) - Posts: 6 - 26/02/2018 11:32:25    2080410

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Pathetic performance from Cork yesterday but I can't say I didn't see that result coming. Cavan bossed the game throughout and were deserving winners. I don't see us getting anything from Meath or Roscommon away and to be honest we're not near fit enough to go up.

It's looking like Cavan, Tipperary and Roscommon three way promotion...

rebelrouser (Cork) - Posts: 41 - 26/02/2018 11:47:11    2080413

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Replying To dec:  "Division 3 is very competitive, Any 2 of Armagh,Fermanagh,Longford and Westmeath can get the 2 promotion spots. Armagh look favourites to get the 1st spot, Westmeath v Fermanagh next weekend will be crucial for both sides. the relegation is between offaly sligo and wexford. Offaly's last couple of performances have been better but still think Offaly and Wexford will go down."
Yeah Longford/Fermanagh/Westmeath all still have to play each other which is going to make for a cracking finish for the second promotion spot. Although Fermanagh still have to play Armagh if I'm not wrong? An upset there could set the cat amongst the pigeons.

I do think that Armagh will finish top and without being biased I think Longford will claim second spot. Barring a loss next weekend away to Sligo, our last two games against Fermanagh and Westmeath are at home and I would like to think this coupled with our good start to the year would be enough to get the wins necessary! Here's hoping anyway.

I would also like to point up that on this years performances to date and if a good run in the summer continued, I would see no need to worry too much about the Division 3 teams not being able to stay in Division 2 once promoted.

LongfordSham (Longford) - Posts: 66 - 26/02/2018 12:23:30    2080432

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Great win for Cavan. Its looks like Cavan are in pole position for promotion. They are the real surprise . But that's coming from the fact what their own supporters where saying before the league. But if you look some of their credible performances in div 1 last season, it is no surprise. This Cavan tean are good enough to win a Ulster senior title in the next 2 to 3 years. I was there in 97 when they last won Ulster and that was some occasion.
Great win for Tipp. Meath could learn from Tipp on and off the field. Sucess at minor and under 21 level. And the Tippearey county board saying that Tipp will reach All Ireland final by 2020. Thats the sort of planning and development Meath should be copying. Tipp have the best full forward line in the country after Dublin and kerry and a strong midfield and shrewd manager. Team to look out for in coming years.
Cork Meath and Down all together won 8 All Irelands in 12 years not so long ago. Anyone of them could end up going down to Division 3 this year. All three have had their worst decade in generations.
This is very difficult division to predict. Take Clare. Well done Clare very good win weekend. Clare have a great football community. Anyway,
Clare drew their first match with Cavan. Meath then hammered Clare by 14 points. Clare then draw with Tippearey. Tippearey then hammer Meath by 8 points . And Clare beat Down. While Down beat Roscommon. And Roscommon draw with Meath. Thats makes no sense whatsoever. Division 2 is a very confusing divsion and a very unpredictable division . You get the feeling it going to go down to the last day and we will have to take out the calculators to work out the winners and losers.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 456 - 26/02/2018 12:35:48    2080439

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Replying To LongfordSham:  "Yeah Longford/Fermanagh/Westmeath all still have to play each other which is going to make for a cracking finish for the second promotion spot. Although Fermanagh still have to play Armagh if I'm not wrong? An upset there could set the cat amongst the pigeons.

I do think that Armagh will finish top and without being biased I think Longford will claim second spot. Barring a loss next weekend away to Sligo, our last two games against Fermanagh and Westmeath are at home and I would like to think this coupled with our good start to the year would be enough to get the wins necessary! Here's hoping anyway.

I would also like to point up that on this years performances to date and if a good run in the summer continued, I would see no need to worry too much about the Division 3 teams not being able to stay in Division 2 once promoted."
Fermanagh have 3 very tough games remaining Westmeath away Armagh Home and Longford away so they will find it hard to finish in top 2. Longford v Westmeath is always a tight match and i would say this is a 50/50 one and the winner of this could well get the second spot. Division 3 has been an exciting division such a pity that the lower leagues get no media coverage.

dec (None) - Posts: 198 - 26/02/2018 13:01:38    2080452

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I think Fermanagh will beat Armagh in Brewster Park and then that will really put the 'cat among the pigeons'. Cavan and Roscommon are in the mix for promotion back to D1 but neither had a great experience there on their last promotions.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1180 - 26/02/2018 13:44:27    2080482

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Offaly managed to recover from a slow start yesterday but truthfully never looked like winning against a much fitter Armagh team. Seriously lacking in scoring forwards in the county guys like Niall McNamee aren't easily replaced.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 351 - 26/02/2018 13:57:07    2080500

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Replying To dec:  "Fermanagh have 3 very tough games remaining Westmeath away Armagh Home and Longford away so they will find it hard to finish in top 2. Longford v Westmeath is always a tight match and i would say this is a 50/50 one and the winner of this could well get the second spot. Division 3 has been an exciting division such a pity that the lower leagues get no media coverage."
I agree totally. Even though Westmeath have been in back to back Leinster FInals, 2015/2016, I would always have rated ourselves as actually being better than them. Always thought that if we had been drawn against them in a Leinster Championship we might have pipped it, although our record in provincial championship speaks for itself so its not to say it would have been a sure thing. If it comes down to a winner takes all for a promotion spot in that game I do still think Longford will get the spoils.

Totally agree, if there was a League 'Monday' programme focussing on Div 2/3/4 more people would tune in to see the more competitive leagues and matches happening week in and week out. Anyway its not going to change anytime soon, all teams/county boards and supporters of these so called weaker counties can do is continue their support of their teams and take pride in knowing that our contribution towards our national games, although not receiving the recognition it deserves is making a big impact. Great to see teams like Cavan and Tipperary making strides to join the 'Elite' when they would have been written off a number of years ago while also the likes of Fermanagh and Carlow Backing up the work that is clearly going on in their respective counties to push for promotions.

While even though the work counties in these divisions might not be enough along with limited resources compared to the top teams to win All Irelands etc but down the line it will make for a more level playing field and championship. I am a firm believer of counties focussing more on how they can improve and work with what they have rather than moaning and complaining about how much Dublin have at their disposal Etc.

I know our own county will NEVER have the pick of players/ resources available that most other counties will have but we always give a good account of ourselves each year which is a result of a fine underage set up and making the most of what we have. There are plenty more like us and it shows what can be done. Monaghan are a prime example on a bigger scale having won Ulster titles recently and being a force to be reckoned with even amongst the 'Top' teams!

LongfordSham (Longford) - Posts: 66 - 26/02/2018 16:01:34    2080592

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