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Ewan McKenna: Páraic Duffy and the GAA have made Dublin a financially doped outfit and there is no defence for this scandal' neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 25/01/2018 18:10:59 2070635 Link 0 |
What do I think we'll , firstly I noted nobody posted a single piece on HoganStand when Duffy made his comments the silence was errie , but then what he was saying wouldn't exactly be up Ulstermans, hermits or kingdomboys street , however now that an article has been published debunking Duffy's opinions I expect HoganStand to crash in the stampede Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 25/01/2018 18:32:04 2070640 Link 4 |
It's widely known that massive funding into Dublin GAA has created a huge imbalance within Leinster with no sign of stooping it, the entire argument was the GAA needs a strong Dublin team, what good is that unless you have a decent opposition for them to play against. As for Duffy stepping down, after the sky deal, the super 8s and the black card issue, that's 3 strikes, what do I think, no comment riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 25/01/2018 20:04:26 2070665 Link 5 |
Headline would have been better if it was called Duffy's Circus... WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 872 - 25/01/2018 20:29:56 2070666 Link 2 |
He wanted to make the strong counties stronger and the weak weaker. The Super 8 will probably increase the gap. His floating of the plan to have a tiered championship will make the gap even bigger. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 25/01/2018 21:38:41 2070677 Link 6 |
It's a difficult piece for anyone outside of Dublin to comment on for fear of the " sour grapes tag" inequality is alive and well within all sections of the gaa and not just Dublin, clubs that have profitable club houses or big sponsors will be able to do things at a more professional level and over time this matters. Dublin have done a tremendous job of exploiting their natural advantages over the last few years and fair dues to them but it has changed the playing field. They have created a self sustainable model that no other county can get near, Kerry and Mayo have competed in recent years by raising money from abroad but that's not sustainable long term. No simple solution to this but ignoring it won't fix it either. lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 25/01/2018 21:57:00 2070679 Link 1 |
You have to deal with this sort of thing when your successful. I feel sorry for the Independent, they have chosen there road though and the impact will be interesting. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4441 - 25/01/2018 22:52:49 2070687 Link 4 |
link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 25/01/2018 23:57:09 2070691 Link 2 |
Well Damo I can't speak for the hermit or Ulsterman but I can say that every thing we've been saying for the last few years is there in Ewan makennas article. He makes some great points and I don't think anyone can argue with them. Will anything be done by those in charge to address this situation remains to be seen. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/01/2018 11:46:44 2070755 Link 1 |
Yeah, poor Damo and the other members of the Dublin flat-earth society are finding it hard trying to defend the indefensible. But sure its only a matter of time before they come on here and start shouting down and insulting myself, yourself and anyone else that continues to raise the issue of this utter scandal on this forum. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/01/2018 12:23:55 2070764 Link 2 |
I listened to him on Off The Ball and heard him say a massive part of the Sky deal was so that expats in Britain could see games. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 26/01/2018 12:55:21 2070774 Link 0 |
Thanks lads knew you wouldn't let me down , like I said your silence when the narrative went against you was stifling, and although what Duffy said was in favor of Dublin NO one posted on it , but the moment and opposite view is giving like a fly to shi7e
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 26/01/2018 13:00:07 2070775 Link 2 |
Ya I thought Ewan made some good points especially the one that Dublin have the population of a province and they get the same money as a province but they only have one team.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/01/2018 13:03:40 2070777 Link 0 |
I won't shout you down or insult you thehermit. I just feel so sorry for you and your county's predicament. It's truly heartbreaking.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12103 - 26/01/2018 13:04:35 2070778 Link 5 |
I think there are a few angles to this. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1824 - 26/01/2018 13:08:59 2070780 Link 3 |
Glad he is gone and his comments just show how much he represents a bygone era. He suggests that Dublin wont win forever - well sorry, they will if most of the resources keep going to 1 county while the others have to beg for scraps from the table. And even if the Kerry's, Tyrone's win the odd All Ireland, what of Leinster where Dublin WILL likely do a 20 in a row. It is highly likely they will. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 595 - 26/01/2018 13:28:48 2070786 Link 3 |
I don't know what you are getting at there? I listened to Duffy's interview and it was the usual horses*ite about Dublin, about Sky being good for the ex-pats, etc etc. Why would we bother commenting on that? It's also a matter of complete indifference to me whether Dublin is kept as one or split three ways from Sunday (which seemed to be the only thing Duffy was prepared to deal with in relation to Dublin in that interview). All I want is for the the stream of gold flowing into their coffers from Croke Park and the Irish Government to stop, and for the other 31 counties to be given a fair cut and to be given an equal opportunity to develop the GAA within their own counties to the best of their ability. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/01/2018 13:37:33 2070789 Link 0 |
Ewan always makes some good points, but he allows his anti Dublin agenda to negate everything else he has to say, and for that reason most people don't take him seriously. He constantly quotes figures like the amount of games development money that goes into Dublin, yet refuses to actually use any form of logic when discussing it. He will quote how much per registered player that amounts to, but won't accept that coaching in schools (where the majority of the coaching is targeted) has absolutely nothing to do with registered players. Could you imagine the uproar if a GAA coach went into a school to take a class and put 75%-80% of the kids standing in a corner and told them "you can't take part, you're not part of our organisation". Joe Duffy et al would have a field day. It's because that he deliberately ignores facts like these that a lot of people ignore his ramblings. At the end of the day the measure of Dublin as a team will be against the Kerrys and Mayos and whatever other teams are regularly getting to the latter stages of the championship, not against Carlow or Westmeath or anyone else in Leinster. The biggest problem within Leinster is that too many county boards have been asleep at the wheel for years. Take Dublin out of the equation, or divide them into twenty little pieces if you want, it still won't improve Kildare or Meath or anyone elses chances of winning an all Ireland, it just means one of the other top teams will beat them. Leinster football has been in the doldrums for quite a while. Even when Dublin were winning Leinster in the early noughties they routinely got their arses handed to them on the big stage, it's less than 10 years since Kerry and Tyrone destroyed us in quarter finals, Dublin have improved to the stage where they can compete with the best, and yes the coaching money has been a huge help, but it's the structures Dublin have in place that are making the difference, and that's a lot counties lack, the plan more so than the money. A final word on Ewans love of Dublin, any man that posts a 6 word tweet at the final whistle in last years all Ireland final that read "b****cks, bo****ks, bol****s, boll****, b*****ks anyway" can't really claim to be an impartial voice in the debate. AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 26/01/2018 13:54:39 2070797 Link 5 |
link That was Joe Molloy's point to him too. Expats in Britain had Premier Sports for a tenner and also GAAGO. The Premier Sports deal is worse value now because they don't show the games in Britain that Sky Sports show live. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 26/01/2018 14:00:05 2070799 Link 2 |
The Sky Sports money goes against a lot of the GAA ethos. Duffy's reasoning around it was pretty weak especially since Gaelic game were available to view in the U.K with other providers. TV3 were also offering to buy the rights to the games Sky purchased and it simply went to the highest bidder. In that respect, I don't think Duffy had a leg to stand on, money was the decision maker. I'd have a lot more time for officials who just admit it instead of skirting around it. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 26/01/2018 14:21:01 2070803 Link 1 |