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Colgan - One very good save, one horrific fumble which cost a point, kick outs a poorer version of Paddy O rourke, all long and slow to get the head up for a quick one
Lavin - At sole fault for first goal but other than that seemed solid enough, hard tackler and not afraid to break out when needed would be better in with McGill and Keoghan in full back line as well.
Moran - Looked struggled for long parts against a mediocre team, to loose and would be taken to the cleaners by Kildare, Westmeath, Dublin etc
Burke - Played well, his usual busy and energetic self, agree with most that he seems to have lost a yard of pace which is not good for him as he wasn't the quickest to begin with but was happy with his performance.
McEntee - Positives: Endless running, tackling and looking for the ball....Negative: Gave away endless ball, seemed to lose confindence in second half and looked to offload as soon as he could. Should have been called ashore earlier than he was.
Conlon - Good and strong on the ball but didnt hold the centre at all, spent most of the first half on the wing or attacking, needs major improvement if he wants to take the 6 jersey from Power (his at the moment in my opinion)
Keoghan - His usual self, gave his man very little, strong on the ball....but for me is corner back all day, has a better impact on the game from there.
Menton - Another good performace from him, attacked well, tracked back consistantly, broke a lot of kickouts, my choice for captain this year.
Flanagan - Jury still out on him for me, good in the air, fielding and breaking ball but offers very little else in my opinion. Just as bad as Rooney for slowing down the ball.
On forwards, first half was impossible for any forward to playwell as we played 15 behind the ball IN OUR OWN HALF, so ratings are never going to be kind to them.
Kennelly - Poor game, slow on the ball and movement looking for it seemed very lethargic.
Toner - Lined out Centre Forward but spent whole first half playing sweeper role, didnt get on the ball at all, much better suited to wing back role.
Biggy - poor game as well, shooting boot not on at all, made a few good drives through but ran into contact every time (same thing people give out about O Sullivan for), like McEntee, lucky to last as long as he did in my opinion.
McMahon - Wasted a glorious goal chance which is unlike him, massive improvement in second half and overall I though did ok.
Brennan - Got on a lot of ball but did very little with it, silly foul on stand side and got in a scuffle when not needed, his aggression is good to see but he needs to be smarter about how he channels it.
O Reilly - Dissapointing game, a talented player but never got into the match even in second half. Can't remember anything he did in the game, good or bad.
Power did very well when he came in, held the Centre very well and steadied the ship somewhat.
O Sullivan, Wallace, Tobin and McEntee all excellent when they came on, this was also due to change in tactics which helped immensly.
McCabe was anonymous when he came on and Rooney never got going at all.
O Neill kiscked 2 good points but hard to comment on defensive abilities as all shape seemed to go in extra time so hard to see where he was actually playing.
All in all, first half was a write off in terms of tactics and performance, any forward on the pitch can't be overly criticised as the team tacits were so negative it wa always going to be difficult. Second half was a bit improvement but the consession in lst 90seconds was shocking.
At the end of the day this was probably about hlf the team that will start for League opener so I wouldn't be overly concerned, if we had our full strength team out we would have won by 5-6 points easily I think, but this comp is to give new lads game and try different positions which we are doing.
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 15/01/2018 11:06:12
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A word on Jame Mc Antee, Like others I taught he played well when in came on. I think he is a excellent prospect for Meath. But he has to take some of the blame him for it been a draw at the end of extra time I think it was. He got caught he possession and got turned over and they got the equaling point from it. I said to my mate when he was racing up the field he is going to lose the ball this I just got the feeling. Anyway he needs to play a little smarter even if he kicked wide it would have been better rather than getting turned over in the middle of the pitch.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 15/01/2018 11:08:48
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Have to say its great to see all these posts and different opinions about yesterday, think alot of the supporters are getting fire back in their belly after yesterday. Great atmosphere (2nd half anyway) Its been a while since i left a Meath game hoarse.
Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 15/01/2018 11:45:05
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Replying To Loyalroyal17: "Have to say its great to see all these posts and different opinions about yesterday, think alot of the supporters are getting fire back in their belly after yesterday. Great atmosphere (2nd half anyway) Its been a while since i left a Meath game hoarse." I know. It was great craic. Had to have a few spoonfuls of honey this morning. :).
Can't wait for next week. Especially where I am living.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2018 12:18:54
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Meath scored 1-12 (HE) and 0-7 (NOME) yesterday over the 90 minutes.
Why do some folk presume that the swirling wind clearly favoured the team attacking the O'Mahonys end (as is usually the case; yesterday it did not). It may have been blowing that way in the shootout but for the majority of the game it was blowing diagonally across the field towards the hospital (judging by the flags high up on the scoreboard, not the sideline). Meath's only real purple patch yesterday (scoring wise from play) was at the hospital end.
They scored 4 points in 35 minutes (1st half NT) at the O'Mahonys end and yet 3 points in 10 minutes (1st half ET). The real problem with the first half performance is not that they tried to keep things tight (contain Longford somewhat), it is the manner/tactics in which they did so, with 15 players behind the ball and no options to counter attack effectively and get some scores. Having all the forwards forced to play a running game from deep is crazy.
GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 15/01/2018 12:31:40
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Replying To royaldunne: "I know. It was great craic. Had to have a few spoonfuls of honey this morning. :).
Can't wait for next week. Especially where I am living." Yeah same here I sounded like i smoked 90 a day when i got up. Good complaint to have of hoarseness this time of year. Enjoy the game RD doubt i be able to make it with the time they have it scheduled for..pity.
Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 15/01/2018 13:45:58
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Replying To Loyalroyal17: "Yeah same here I sounded like i smoked 90 a day when i got up. Good complaint to have of hoarseness this time of year. Enjoy the game RD doubt i be able to make it with the time they have it scheduled for..pity." It's a crazy time tbh.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/01/2018 13:57:03
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Replying To GlasagusOr: "Meath scored 1-12 (HE) and 0-7 (NOME) yesterday over the 90 minutes.
Why do some folk presume that the swirling wind clearly favoured the team attacking the O'Mahonys end (as is usually the case; yesterday it did not). It may have been blowing that way in the shootout but for the majority of the game it was blowing diagonally across the field towards the hospital (judging by the flags high up on the scoreboard, not the sideline). Meath's only real purple patch yesterday (scoring wise from play) was at the hospital end.
They scored 4 points in 35 minutes (1st half NT) at the O'Mahonys end and yet 3 points in 10 minutes (1st half ET). The real problem with the first half performance is not that they tried to keep things tight (contain Longford somewhat), it is the manner/tactics in which they did so, with 15 players behind the ball and no options to counter attack effectively and get some scores. Having all the forwards forced to play a running game from deep is crazy." Ok take the elements out of it,we don't do quick inside ball. It's either backwards or sidewards the few times and I mean few we did set up or were just in that formation at the time. We got couple of points I think both from tom o reilly a big strong full forward.you need to b able to mix up ur tactics McEntee started a system last year and when kildare beat us we went all defenseive even again sligo no world beaters at this level our coaching and game sense has to b better, we don't look comfortable on the ball. Longford did.toner spent the afternoon at centre back I think this was confusing the likes of conlon and Lavin they seemed to b at sea when he was in there vincinity.
Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 15/01/2018 20:21:01
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Replying To bobkarlgees: "A word on Jame Mc Antee, Like others I taught he played well when in came on. I think he is a excellent prospect for Meath. But he has to take some of the blame him for it been a draw at the end of extra time I think it was. He got caught he possession and got turned over and they got the equaling point from it. I said to my mate when he was racing up the field he is going to lose the ball this I just got the feeling. Anyway he needs to play a little smarter even if he kicked wide it would have been better rather than getting turned over in the middle of the pitch." Agreed. You could see that coming a mile away. Responsibility must be borne there.
As much as he deserves credit for getting on a lot of ball, he had a couple of chances to swing boot for a score but opted to cut back/ hop/ solo and killed the chance where he was almost always dispossessed.
Ow perhaps the word from the line is for him not to shoot - who knows, but if so then he must be more clinical at making that gap for a running man/support player. Time will tell.
Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 15/01/2018 23:00:38
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People seem generally content at drawing with Longford. Bit surprised. I know it's pre-season but if Division 1 is Meath's aspiration for this year then I would expect them to put Westmeath to the sword next weekend. Seems Roscommon are flying in Connaught....
I was at the Kildare game last year in Tullamore and the root of all evils was your kick-out strategy. Kildare dominated the midfield exchanges which as we know this is the basis of retaining possession and building a platform. I would hope they've learned from this. Retention of kick-outs is imperative to winning any game at any time of year.
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Replying To GerryD: "People seem generally content at drawing with Longford. Bit surprised. I know it's pre-season but if Division 1 is Meath's aspiration for this year then I would expect them to put Westmeath to the sword next weekend. Seems Roscommon are flying in Connaught....
I was at the Kildare game last year in Tullamore and the root of all evils was your kick-out strategy. Kildare dominated the midfield exchanges which as we know this is the basis of retaining possession and building a platform. I would hope they've learned from this. Retention of kick-outs is imperative to winning any game at any time of year." This same Longford team hammered Kildare last week with 8 starters from the hyped up Leinster final last year. So going on form what does that tell you?
Did you go into Kildare forum and mention that?? Not having a pop, but very little can be read into pre season games, it's all about finding new players.
And showing how fit we are. Trust me when we face rossies we will be ready.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2018 10:10:48
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Replying To royaldunne: "This same Longford team hammered Kildare last week with 8 starters from the hyped up Leinster final last year. So going on form what does that tell you?
Did you go into Kildare forum and mention that?? Not having a pop, but very little can be read into pre season games, it's all about finding new players.
And showing how fit we are. Trust me when we face rossies we will be ready." Good man - to be honest I don't really follow Kildare football but Meath are on our doorstep, like Cavan and Louth. Sorry for taking a passing interest.
GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 335 - 16/01/2018 10:51:40
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Replying To GerryD: "Good man - to be honest I don't really follow Kildare football but Meath are on our doorstep, like Cavan and Louth. Sorry for taking a passing interest." As I said I wasn't having a pop, so no need to take offence.
I understand Meath are treated to a different level of scrutiny than most teams, the only thing I try to point out is that Meath have had a very dark time, and we are coming out of it, obviously division one is the goal this year, but should it not happen it wouldn't be a disaster, we have the right men in charge, it's about moving in the right direction, now I would like it to be quicker but I like everyone else must be patient. I still think we will be thereabouts for promotion, and super 8s, hopefully achieving both. But if not so be it, it will take another 3 years under current management to achieve where we want to be, we are getting there, even if not as quickly as I had hoped.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2018 11:30:38
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Replying To GerryD: "Good man - to be honest I don't really follow Kildare football but Meath are on our doorstep, like Cavan and Louth. Sorry for taking a passing interest." Don't apologise. Your county is one we should be looking to for inspiration in a sense!
GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 16/01/2018 11:33:14
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Replying To GlasgowRoyal: "Don't apologise. Your county is one we should be looking to for inspiration in a sense!" Yes agreed Monaghan seem to be able to play to near their full potential. Your most praise worthy aspect of your approach seems to be your reluctance to use mickey mouse excuses when things go wrong.
nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1211 - 16/01/2018 13:14:46
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Replying To GerryD: "People seem generally content at drawing with Longford. Bit surprised. I know it's pre-season but if Division 1 is Meath's aspiration for this year then I would expect them to put Westmeath to the sword next weekend. Seems Roscommon are flying in Connaught....
I was at the Kildare game last year in Tullamore and the root of all evils was your kick-out strategy. Kildare dominated the midfield exchanges which as we know this is the basis of retaining possession and building a platform. I would hope they've learned from this. Retention of kick-outs is imperative to winning any game at any time of year." Your right in what you say GerryD,the problem for meath now is were starting from scratch with our kick out stragities, we don't know who our regular goalkeeper is going to be due to last years goalkeepers quitting the panel, anyway best of luck to Monaghan for 2018 with any luck we may meet in the super eights.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 16/01/2018 13:32:19
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Replying To Royal.Legend: "Your right in what you say GerryD,the problem for meath now is were starting from scratch with our kick out stragities, we don't know who our regular goalkeeper is going to be due to last years goalkeepers quitting the panel, anyway best of luck to Monaghan for 2018 with any luck we may meet in the super eights." Well let's be honest, 90% of people were calling for por to be dismissed. The most anger directed towards Andy was for keeping paddy as keeper.
People can't have it both ways. It does make
Me laugh though that some were calling for his head and then lamented his loss.
Ahh Meath gaa people no pleasing some of them :)
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2018 17:20:45
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Replying To GerryD: "Good man - to be honest I don't really follow Kildare football but Meath are on our doorstep, like Cavan and Louth. Sorry for taking a passing interest." Again absolutely no need to apologise. It's good to get another opinion from a outside county, and a fair one at that.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/01/2018 18:30:18
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Replying To royaldunne: "Well let's be honest, 90% of people were calling for por to be dismissed. The most anger directed towards Andy was for keeping paddy as keeper.
People can't have it both ways. It does make
Me laugh though that some were calling for his head and then lamented his loss.
Ahh Meath gaa people no pleasing some of them :)" Paddy is a loss to the Meath panel that's for sure, taught he was getting much better at picking his man out on the kick outs, he was prone to a couple of mistakes which is what people always remember, I don't blame Andy for him stepping away from the pane in fairness to paddy he served his time.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 16/01/2018 19:04:24
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Replying To royaldunne: "Well let's be honest, 90% of people were calling for por to be dismissed. The most anger directed towards Andy was for keeping paddy as keeper.
People can't have it both ways. It does make
Me laugh though that some were calling for his head and then lamented his loss.
Ahh Meath gaa people no pleasing some of them :)" I personally liked Paddy and was sad to see him go..But hopefully a chance for someone else now
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