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Can Galway repeat feat as All Ireland/League Champs?

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I think they will due to their youth/deep bench. I think they're more likely to win the league due to playing in 1B. I see Tipp not Waterford as their main threat.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 17/11/2017 23:32:27    2062938

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Very roughly I'd say they're about 8 or 9 to 1 to do the double again. So they probably won't.

Tipp are second favourites for the All Ireland. Waterford are only 4th after Kilkenny.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - 18/11/2017 09:14:18    2062942

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It absolutely doesn't matter in the slightest how they do in the league next year. It is about as important as the Fenway Classic or the Walsh Cup! There is only one target that matters in 2018 and that is retaining the McCarthy Cup.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - 18/11/2017 17:25:25    2062966

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Kk and cork have been the only teams to do it in almost 30 years. This is new territory for this Galway team. The showed great desire and never say die this year and were calm in all their games. Personally I obviously hope they don't win it for obvious reasons!! My head also says they won't. This Is probably their first year in 30 years to start the year as favs and It may not suit them. Every team that wins an all Ireland is to the forefront of people's minds and they all have great panels! Just look at tipp after 2010 and after last years final. My head says Galway beat a well below par tipp team this year and personally I don't think Galway improved as much as people believe this year from 2016. They'll be close but I don't think they will win it
I've nothing to say on the league as we haven't a clue what managers are thinking when they take into account the new cship format, who in itself may suit some teams more than others. It has certainly came at the right time for kk.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 18/11/2017 23:51:40    2062982

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I don't think it matters about being favorites as the pressure to win one is off of them. I almost expect them to be even more relaxed if that's possible.

I expect them to use the League to make their bench even deeper by blooding some new talent. Being in 1B they'll have more of a luxury to experiment than if they were in 1A.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 19/11/2017 00:45:47    2062985

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PoolSturgeon:

I agree the Championship is the main goal of Galway and every team involved for that matter but the League has value in that you can test new talent and if you get to the League Final you are playing while other teams are sitting at home and the match practice is very valuable.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 19/11/2017 00:55:16    2062986

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The Leinster final, the National League and the AI win this year should instil what had been missing since the mid 80s, ie the mentality and know how to win the AI. There is also now the familiarity with Croke Park which is an advantage on big occasions. Injuries cost Galway in last year's SF, hopefully next year P Killeen will be back plus a few others to give cover in the backline. Galway are playing as a unified force, management and players seem to have great respect for each other and that's a vital ingredient for success.

baire (Galway) - 19/11/2017 09:39:27    2062988

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Liam 2018 would be the goal, other competitions are a means to an end.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - 19/11/2017 13:51:56    2062997

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Liam 2018 would be the goal, other competitions are a means to an end."
The million dollar question, yes they are undoubtedly good enough, but only if they are mentally right will they retain Liam. I would also see Tipperary as the main threat, Tipp like Galway (although Tipp aren't as bad) are massive underachievers, they never pushed on after 2001, 2010 or 2016, so it will be interesting to see how Galway are next season, while Tipperary still have most of the team that easily won the All Ireland in 2016. Personally I think Galway were undoubtedly the best side in the country last season, however the weight of history as always would have weighed heavily upon them, not to mention everybody making them favourites for Liam, but they did finally did it, and crept over the line. However they have no excuses now, they are easily good enough, the shackles are off and if they could start scoring a few goals to go with their massive point scoring ability, they're is nothing out there to fear but themselve

gilly2308 (Galway) - 24/11/2017 10:31:56    2063429

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It is great that 90% here (mostly Galway) are writing off Waterford. Keep it up. However it is quiet disrespectful to a county that was very gracious to you in a puck of the ball defeat.

Canuck (Waterford) - 24/11/2017 13:43:34    2063448

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Replying To gilly2308:  "The million dollar question, yes they are undoubtedly good enough, but only if they are mentally right will they retain Liam. I would also see Tipperary as the main threat, Tipp like Galway (although Tipp aren't as bad) are massive underachievers, they never pushed on after 2001, 2010 or 2016, so it will be interesting to see how Galway are next season, while Tipperary still have most of the team that easily won the All Ireland in 2016. Personally I think Galway were undoubtedly the best side in the country last season, however the weight of history as always would have weighed heavily upon them, not to mention everybody making them favourites for Liam, but they did finally did it, and crept over the line. However they have no excuses now, they are easily good enough, the shackles are off and if they could start scoring a few goals to go with their massive point scoring ability, they're is nothing out there to fear but themselve"
Never pushed on after 2001? Wtf! Referee 'pushed' them over the line in '01 imo. Only place most teams '99-'15 were 'pushing on' to, was into Cody's pocket.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - 24/11/2017 14:23:27    2063451

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Never pushed on after 2001? Wtf! Referee 'pushed' them over the line in '01 imo. Only place most teams '99-'15 were 'pushing on' to, was into Cody's pocket."
Canuck I don't think I'm been disingenuous to Waterford for one second, they pushed Galway all the way, they could just have easily have won that game, and I don't think one person would be surprised were Waterford to go all of the way next year. However the question was asked if Galway could retain the All Ireland, and Tipperary would most definitely be seen as the main challengers to Galway, but who knows it could just as easily be Waterford if Tipperary go missing for most of the season just like they did this year bar the semi final? It is also well within the realms of possibility that Galway might go missing next year leaving it between Tipperary and Waterford for Liam.
Finally Pope not sure if I agree with you in regards to 2001, this was yet another All Ireland where Galway didn't 'turn up' after a great semi final performance, shot a load of bad wides and conceded a stupid goal, so not sure how blaming the referee as we tend to do in Galway was the cause of us losing the 2001 final?

gilly2308 (Galway) - 24/11/2017 15:36:07    2063459

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Replying To gilly2308:  "Canuck I don't think I'm been disingenuous to Waterford for one second, they pushed Galway all the way, they could just have easily have won that game, and I don't think one person would be surprised were Waterford to go all of the way next year. However the question was asked if Galway could retain the All Ireland, and Tipperary would most definitely be seen as the main challengers to Galway, but who knows it could just as easily be Waterford if Tipperary go missing for most of the season just like they did this year bar the semi final? It is also well within the realms of possibility that Galway might go missing next year leaving it between Tipperary and Waterford for Liam.
Finally Pope not sure if I agree with you in regards to 2001, this was yet another All Ireland where Galway didn't 'turn up' after a great semi final performance, shot a load of bad wides and conceded a stupid goal, so not sure how blaming the referee as we tend to do in Galway was the cause of us losing the 2001 final?"
Another poster put Waterford at 4th. Tipperary and Kilkenny did not win their provence either. If you were to use percentage of wins over losses in championship hurling, Waterford's record over Galway is superior to any one else's. A second string Waterford team ran them around the field at home in the league this year until they decided to take their foot off the pedal. Galway should probably be more concerned running into Waterford than anyone else.
I stayed to applaud Galway at the final. They deservedly beat a Waterford team who did not play at their best with one of the best player side lined and a top forward away. To supplement what was on the field they have to come in defence,McNulty, Lyons, Pendergast, Prunty etc. In attack Devine. Curran, Roche, Foran, Stephen Bennett, Hogan and others. Ian O'Regan is probably the second best keeper in the country. So look out and anyone who discounts Wexford, Limerick and Clare it is at their peril.

Canuck (Waterford) - 24/11/2017 19:10:54    2063483

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Replying To Canuck:  "It is great that 90% here (mostly Galway) are writing off Waterford. Keep it up. However it is quiet disrespectful to a county that was very gracious to you in a puck of the ball defeat."
I can assure most Galway people would not write off Waterford.Yes Waterford people were gracious in defeat but we were the better team on the day and ultimately that is why Liam McCarthy came home across the Shannon.

bud14 (Galway) - 24/11/2017 19:11:12    2063484

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Replying To bud14:  "I can assure most Galway people would not write off Waterford.Yes Waterford people were gracious in defeat but we were the better team on the day and ultimately that is why Liam McCarthy came home across the Shannon."
One word !!! Yes !!!

Canuck (Waterford) - 24/11/2017 20:43:40    2063491

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Replying To Canuck:  "It is great that 90% here (mostly Galway) are writing off Waterford. Keep it up. However it is quiet disrespectful to a county that was very gracious to you in a puck of the ball defeat."
I don't think anyone could or would write off Waterford. Far too much talent on their team to do that. I simply see Tipp as the main threat due to THEIR wealth of talent and physical play. Of course Waterford, Cork, KK, Limerick, Wexford, Clare, etc all have talented squads and can never be overlooked. I expect Dublin to be better in 2018 too with their new management team. Galway have a lot of work to do to repeat as champs.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 24/11/2017 21:04:24    2063493

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No

PyatPree (Cork) - 24/11/2017 22:21:53    2063499

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Replying To Canuck:  "It is great that 90% here (mostly Galway) are writing off Waterford. Keep it up. However it is quiet disrespectful to a county that was very gracious to you in a puck of the ball defeat."
A bit on the sensitive side are you? Surely people are entitled to their opinions?

Condorman (Dublin) - 25/11/2017 12:25:42    2063518

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Replying To Condorman:  "A bit on the sensitive side are you? Surely people are entitled to their opinions?"
Ah god bless him it's Galway's fault Waterford didn't play well on the day off the all ireland.The best team who turns up on the day normally wins the day and that was Galway.

bud14 (Galway) - 25/11/2017 13:13:24    2063523

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Replying To bud14:  "Ah god bless him it's Galway's fault Waterford didn't play well on the day off the all ireland.The best team who turns up on the day normally wins the day and that was Galway."
Did I not say the best team won on the day ? Actually the best team all year. A county deserving of an All-Ireland that were good enough to go and win it. Neither am I sensitive and respect everyone's opinion. It is only my opinion that Waterford did not play well on the day. Missing players and sick players. There is nothing to say they would have beaten Galway even if they were at their best.

Canuck (Waterford) - 25/11/2017 14:51:51    2063526

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