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True, but the hurling championship has become more competitive than the football and even though you're right in saying that the majority of counties prioritize football, I think most of them dont really care that much as theyve no chance of winning Sam.
3Dhurling (Laois) - Posts: 24 - 15/10/2017 17:37:28 2055379 Link 0 |
Yeah it's true only 10 to 12 counties take hurling 'seriously' but it's the big counties. Cork pushing 550,000 , Galway, Dublin (hopefully) Limerick ect.. Half of the football counties are quiet small..cavan, Longford ect. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 15/10/2017 18:26:56 2055390 Link 2 |
Cork 500,000. You wouldn't think it to see some of the attendances at their matches. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 15/10/2017 18:39:21 2055393 Link 1 |
Cork hurling generally gets good attendances. Its the footballers who get ignored.
3Dhurling (Laois) - Posts: 24 - 15/10/2017 18:44:45 2055394 Link 0 |
The phrase 'Cutting off your nose to spite your face' comes to mind for this topic. m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 15/10/2017 21:14:27 2055431 Link 0 |
Clearly didn't see the Limerick u21s in their dressing room after the all Ireland then............
PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 16/10/2017 00:49:36 2055483 Link 0 |
Two sides to what story bloody ban.....if you haven't lived with the hassle of trying to promote hurling up here during the troubles then don't talk nonsense.......if you have the experience to back up your statement then please enlighten us
PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 16/10/2017 00:51:29 2055484 Link 3 |
You do understand that hurling is intrinsically linked to the Gaelic culture and tradition....played on this island hundreds of years before a word of bearla was heard.......derived from the Celtic warrior culture and tradition, you might want to but you can't rewrite history and eradicate the very ethos and tradition if the game........
PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 16/10/2017 00:54:56 2055485 Link 2 |
Ná raibh an dea-rath ar do ghléas, a shúdaire na míoltóg.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1797 - 16/10/2017 10:57:45 2055524 Link 1 |
A separate hurling Board would have the ability to promote the code 'properly', across all counties, without having a negative impact on football. Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 287 - 16/10/2017 10:59:27 2055526 Link 0 |
Good question and I would say any true Hurling fan would want to see more counties involved at a high level. I mean would a Kilkenny player or fan truly begrudge a Donegal or Meath, etc hurling victory? I'm sure most would be happy to see it.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 16/10/2017 15:41:52 2055591 Link 1 |
I suppose the slight Nationalist slant to Ireland - Irish as an official language and commemorating dead Republicans annually - must be particularly trying for you as well. I know your sort; and I bet you if GAA players wore poppies like the soccer boys, there'd not be a peep out of you.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 16/10/2017 18:48:37 2055629 Link 4 |
"The question is, do the premier Hurling Counties have any interest or motivation in spreading the gospel to the 'lesser' counties. " Why the need for the constant digs at, for lack of a better term, tier 1 hurling counties? The fact that these counties are keeping hurling going at all in their own counties, and the level/standards they maintain, is testament to the work people in those counties are doing to promote hurling in general. Keeping hurling as a major sport in any county isn't a given, even in counties like Tipp or Cork. These counties have to compete with other sports, such as soccer, rugby etc, as much as anywhere else. And there's now increasing competition from football, even in counties like Tipp. Not that hurling and football should have an adversarial relationship (separate boards for each would help protect both though). Hurling has become even more of a niche sport in the country in general I think, so keeping it going at a top level is challenge for any county, nevermind doing it for other counties as well. We all want hurling in all counties to be given fair treatment, and protected from neglect, thats why I'm suggesting seperate boards/bodies at county level. Although dedicated bodies for each code at provincial level might be just as necessary. And as for counties such as Tipp spreading the gospel to developing hurling counties (I'm not going to indulge the "lesser' counties comment), what do you think Paudi Butler was at for all those years? And where do you think Dinny Cahill was coming from when he was managing Antrim? And what do you think is bringing Liam Sheedy up and down to Antrim for the foreseeable future? Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 16/10/2017 19:41:48 2055635 Link 2 |
You're right. I'd have no problem with GAA players wearing poppies to commemorate WW1 and WW2 sacrifice.
bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 16/10/2017 20:16:42 2055639 Link 0 |
Marlon - Take a look at the map of Ireland and colour in the hurling strongholds, on a county basis. The rest is a wasteland and the GAA hierarchy should be ashamed about the lack of true initiatives and progress in this wasteland. Your suggestion about Provincial Hurling Boards 'may' work, but our experience in Ulster is not positive.
Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 287 - 17/10/2017 11:41:00 2055715 Link 1 |
No surprise given your comments earlier on this thread.
Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 859 - 17/10/2017 12:33:42 2055727 Link 0 |
Besides the separation of the two sports other practical things can be done now. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 17/10/2017 17:20:20 2055806 Link 1 |
Well a Kilkenny president begrudged the Christy Ring and Nicky Rackard finalists the right of their finals to be played before the AI semi-finals to allow the minors a later run out. I'd be concerned if the Traditional Hurling counties were allowed any more control over hurling for the whole county as it would die entirely in the periphery based on some of the outcomes of the various HDC's over the last few years. This super 10's that has come from Croke Park and voted through by football counties on a trial basis is also a disaster with Laois, Westmeath and the likes being sidelined with a little glimmer of light to aim for! bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 18/10/2017 15:52:34 2056039 Link 0 |
The Laois hurling manager has come out fully in favour of the new championship format so he clearly doesn't think the county is being sidelined. Most of the hurling counties in the lower tiers wanted their championships finished in June rather than going on until August as players usually have more time to focus on hurling in early summer, later in the year they usually have club football commitments or are away working. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 18/10/2017 16:58:33 2056056 Link 0 |
Stop boy will you. Seriously hurling is getting all the backing and all the hype.
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 18/10/2017 18:12:44 2056072 Link 0 |