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Great result .. keep it up . Well done to all concerned

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 04/02/2018 08:22:38    2073752

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Great to get a big win last night & not alone get us to 3 pts on the table but start to put a smile back in the cavan supporters faces.
Positives; thought Faulkner is starting to command the full back area & Murray extremely competent beside him. Martin Reilly kicked 3/4 pts from play, Magee worked hard at mid field & up front caoimhin was outstanding from start to finish winning every ball & doing what very few cavan forwards have done in years is driving straight for the goals. Reminded me very much of Larry Reilly back in his prime. Mackey again was a huge influence.
However I would have to say that to put the win in context that Louth were definitely the worst county team I have seen in years. They were extremely poor & based on last night unlikely to pick up any points in the division

bond (Longford) - Posts: 174 - 04/02/2018 08:28:46    2073753

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Replying To bond:  "Great to get a big win last night & not alone get us to 3 pts on the table but start to put a smile back in the cavan supporters faces.
Positives; thought Faulkner is starting to command the full back area & Murray extremely competent beside him. Martin Reilly kicked 3/4 pts from play, Magee worked hard at mid field & up front caoimhin was outstanding from start to finish winning every ball & doing what very few cavan forwards have done in years is driving straight for the goals. Reminded me very much of Larry Reilly back in his prime. Mackey again was a huge influence.
However I would have to say that to put the win in context that Louth were definitely the worst county team I have seen in years. They were extremely poor & based on last night unlikely to pick up any points in the division"
Well done to all on last nights performance, , players and management.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 882 - 04/02/2018 09:28:14    2073758

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We have to keep things in context and take account of the quality of the opposition. However, we can look forward to next weekend with a bit of confidence. Next Saturday will tell us where we stand.

It must be said, based upon the first two games, that the incredible doom and gloom which hung over the county for the past couple of weeks was over the top and disrespectful to the current panel.

I for one am sorry to see the Wee County in such a bad state and I hope Pete McGrath can improve their plight over the weeks ahead.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 04/02/2018 09:56:29    2073765

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Good to get the win even if Louth didn't look like a great team.
Thought Cavan played more direct football than usual. Newcomers Brian Magee and David Philip's impressed me. Martin Reilly gave it his usual 100 per cent. Gearoid Mc Kiernan needs to step up a gear. Mackey still our best forward but I have high hopes for Caoimhin O Reilly.
Management using the bench a bit more this year.Hope we can get the same result against Meath.

marita (None) - Posts: 467 - 04/02/2018 10:32:14    2073782

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Replying To marita:  "Good to get the win even if Louth didn't look like a great team.
Thought Cavan played more direct football than usual. Newcomers Brian Magee and David Philip's impressed me. Martin Reilly gave it his usual 100 per cent. Gearoid Mc Kiernan needs to step up a gear. Mackey still our best forward but I have high hopes for Caoimhin O Reilly.
Management using the bench a bit more this year.Hope we can get the same result against Meath."
Yes well done lads. agree with most posters re players performances but I mist also add Ciaran Brady. I thougjt he had a great game too. We played some great passages of team football but also there were times when we didn't play the pass when it was on which is very frustrating . Hopefully that facet of our game will improve.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 04/02/2018 12:07:55    2073807

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There are positives but Clare's result today puts things into perspective.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 04/02/2018 16:10:37    2073865

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "There are positives but Clare's result today puts things into perspective."
With Cork Meath and Roscommon winning it makes it a very interesting league table now it be fair to say Louth will take nothing from any off the other teams so safe to say they are relegated unless there is a dramatic turn around in their season.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 04/02/2018 17:07:18    2073893

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Replying To StirringIt:  "Does anyone remember LMFAO with " I'm sexy and I know it " ?

We LMFAO is appropriate after the performances so far this year and the lyrics should be changed to " We're brutal and I know it "

OMG we have really set our sights low when we are pleased with a draw to Clare !!. No disrespect to them, but they are a traditional hurling county with football taking second place in the pecking order.

I can't blame lads who didnt commit due to personal , work or college commitments, but what the present team shows is that we have no dept of talent in the county.

We are a div 3 team no matter how we big ourselves up. Come championship there will be lads on here talking up a mediocre team who are in for a hammering against Donegal.

Lets face facts here, we will be in the same category as Carlow, Clare, Leitrim, Louth etc for years to come. Lower division football, win a few rounds of the qualifiers and threaten to do the devil and all in the Mc Kenna cup.

Football in the county has been system focused and the natural talent of players has been stifled. No natural forwards, no players who can turn a game with natural ability. Its a system and the system is failing us.

Not one of our players would make the starting team in any of the main contenders for honours.

Back to basics .... Its a case of putting a ten year plan into place. Put up with Div 3 for a while and start developing natural players at club level, Start at the U12, 14 and 16 age groups and work with them for the next ten years.

Keep a core group of 40 to 50 going and not just those who make the minor team as we have been doing for years.

We are letting players slip through by blinkered vision. Keep our options open. Keep a and B squads training , working on skills and not a system.

Then we have a pool of players with natural ability to pick from. Then we can start looking at promotion, them we can start challenging for championship honours.

It's a suggestion, because to be honest, the present set up and the present squad are nothing to get excited about, no matter how you big them up !!

They can keep it running until we develop a squad(s) of players with natural ability !!"
I'm confused. I've just looked at the NFL tables and it shows Cavan on three points in Division 2. But Stirringit says that we're a Division 3 team. Are the final places decided upon already? Why are they shown as a Division 2 team everywhere else?

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 289 - 04/02/2018 17:21:36    2073903

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Replying To Skelling:  "I'm confused. I've just looked at the NFL tables and it shows Cavan on three points in Division 2. But Stirringit says that we're a Division 3 team. Are the final places decided upon already? Why are they shown as a Division 2 team everywhere else?"
Replying To StirringIt: "Does anyone remember LMFAO with " I'm sexy and I know it " ?

You talking about another ten year plan you have to be joking for god sake. I will agree with you about working with our talent but not as a development squad let them develop with their club and get the CCB coaches to spend times with schools and clubs and stop working with a select few.

Now we have 3 points in Division two we are not propping up the table we are mid table if not higher so let's support whats there and not be negative. I think 3 points is great considering we were seven points behind Clare at one stage. They will improve from match to match and I expect Clare will take points from others. As it stands the future looks bright so stop placing a cloud over it.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 04/02/2018 18:04:10    2073934

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Look I haven't seen Cavan play for a good while, your result last night was impressive, I don't know if you had a off day v clare as they were shocking v Meath today and actually the 14 points could have been 24. They really were that bad. Anyway looking forward to a sterner test on Saturday from you boys.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2018 21:39:38    2074087

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Stone throwers next. Bring the hard hats lads.

foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 129 - 04/02/2018 23:07:30    2074118

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An excellent win albeit against one of the worst County teams I've ever seen play in Breffni Park. A few errors in the first half allowed Louth to get back into it, but we really stepped up and pulled away from them in the 2nd half. That win and the comeback against Clare last weekend will do alot for their confidence, but there are tougher tests to come.

Nevertheless, how refreshing was it to see Cavan playing attacking football. Nearly every time we got possession, we looked to go forward, the entire forward line, particularly the full forward provide a great outlet for the outfield players. The back line were excellent, full back line commanded their space and the half back line were there to take the ball.

I said it umpteen times over the years, let footballers play football and they will play.

It seems managers up and down the Country have seen the light and have got rid of the nauseating puke defensive football (apart from Mickey Harte) - the highlights last night were actually a joy to watch, even Donegal played their part this weekend.

So now that the County is sorted, time for the County Board to get their house in order and sort out club football.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 05/02/2018 09:25:05    2074156

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Good win at the weekend and in particular nice to see a bit more pace and directness coming into our inside line. Hopefully we can develop on this over the next 5 games and the fresh blood can kick on. They are 5 very tough games but by no means beyond our ability. Division 2 really offers a great competition for a team like us and it's where we really want to stay unless of course promotion beckons. Meath in Breffni next Saturday evening promises to be a great occasion. Both of us have a bit of a spring in our step so hopefully there is a big turnout from supporters and a noisy atmosphere. The squad is developing nicely at the moment too with returning players and young guns putting their hands up for a championship starting jersey. There's also a couple of club U21 players to rejoin after showing well in Ennis.
For me 7 points is the magic number this year. Of course we're going to have setbacks over the next couple of months and it's hard to see us not losing a few games over that period but as long as we don't panic or get too carried away with the bad and good I think we have the material to have a decent year. And it goes without saying that I hope we keep our momentum going till after this weekend at least!!! Good luck to all.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 05/02/2018 16:02:12    2074339

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Folks! we're playing Meath in 3 days, massive game, loads to play for, is no one excited yet????

ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts: 289 - 08/02/2018 08:41:03    2074953

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Over on the Meath forum they are very confident. Not sure how they suddenly think Meath are brilliant but there you go. We should be beating Meath just about, I say "just about" as a few of our 1st team are only getting back to fitness. Mattie needs to get the lads ready for this one, no experimentation - play a strong team and win. Experiment against other teams, not Meath.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 08/02/2018 10:55:33    2074969

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Replying To fredflint:  "Over on the Meath forum they are very confident. Not sure how they suddenly think Meath are brilliant but there you go. We should be beating Meath just about, I say "just about" as a few of our 1st team are only getting back to fitness. Mattie needs to get the lads ready for this one, no experimentation - play a strong team and win. Experiment against other teams, not Meath."
Over on the Meath forum they are very confident. Not sure how they suddenly think Meath are brilliant but there you go. We should be beating Meath just about, I say "just about" as a few of our 1st team are only getting back to fitness. Mattie needs to get the lads ready for this one, no experimentation - play a strong team and win. Experiment against other teams, not Meath.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 913 - 08/02/2018 10:55:33 2074969
I agree totally with you there is a time and place for experimenting and it's not for sure in division two. You respect every team until the league is over end off. Neither do any experimenting two day's before a match either. We could do with a few dry day's to help the going.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 08/02/2018 11:40:17    2074977

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Replying To fredflint:  "Over on the Meath forum they are very confident. Not sure how they suddenly think Meath are brilliant but there you go. We should be beating Meath just about, I say "just about" as a few of our 1st team are only getting back to fitness. Mattie needs to get the lads ready for this one, no experimentation - play a strong team and win. Experiment against other teams, not Meath."
Had a look over there. They certainly seem very confident and look to have invested serious faith in Andy McEntee. Hard to call but I'd be a bit skeptical if they've improved that much but still wouldn't exactly be expecting a Cavan victory either. Like us they have their problems but have been a top Division 2 side for a while now so probably expect this is their year. Last few times we met we beat them fairly well on 2 occasions and they beat us in a tight affair in Navan. The times we beat them we did so with direct ball into the forwards with Givney giving their defense a torrid time. Maybe this is why they seem to think we're a big physical team and they a running team but we don't have that option anymore. Have we improved though? Are we more mobile around the middle and up front? Only time will tell. Have they improved? I would say so. They've probably improved defensively and Conor McGill could be a settling influence back their. After that they've added a good few young players to their team but again what exactly that means only time will tell. Up to a year or two ago the Meath U21 teams I saw play were atrocious. Last couple of their underage teams were bigged up and while results were not bad they ultimately didn't live up to the hype. So on that front we probably have just as good coming through if not better. For me they're still a jekyll and hyde team. Played very well against Roscommon but threw away a big injury time lead. What do we make of their annihilation of Clare? Is it a sign of them learning from their mistakes or is it a sign of a flat track bully? You could argue either way. I for one am looking forward to a full blooded encounter Saturday evening and odds of 15/2 on a draw offer terrific value.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 08/02/2018 15:19:33    2075032

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Replying To Hardtimes:  "Had a look over there. They certainly seem very confident and look to have invested serious faith in Andy McEntee. Hard to call but I'd be a bit skeptical if they've improved that much but still wouldn't exactly be expecting a Cavan victory either. Like us they have their problems but have been a top Division 2 side for a while now so probably expect this is their year. Last few times we met we beat them fairly well on 2 occasions and they beat us in a tight affair in Navan. The times we beat them we did so with direct ball into the forwards with Givney giving their defense a torrid time. Maybe this is why they seem to think we're a big physical team and they a running team but we don't have that option anymore. Have we improved though? Are we more mobile around the middle and up front? Only time will tell. Have they improved? I would say so. They've probably improved defensively and Conor McGill could be a settling influence back their. After that they've added a good few young players to their team but again what exactly that means only time will tell. Up to a year or two ago the Meath U21 teams I saw play were atrocious. Last couple of their underage teams were bigged up and while results were not bad they ultimately didn't live up to the hype. So on that front we probably have just as good coming through if not better. For me they're still a jekyll and hyde team. Played very well against Roscommon but threw away a big injury time lead. What do we make of their annihilation of Clare? Is it a sign of them learning from their mistakes or is it a sign of a flat track bully? You could argue either way. I for one am looking forward to a full blooded encounter Saturday evening and odds of 15/2 on a draw offer terrific value."
I wonder if this snow does not melt will there be a match because the pitch is white at the moment.It's lined and ready since yesterday however should it clear up.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 09/02/2018 10:27:29    2075197

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Replying To seanorinn:  "I wonder if this snow does not melt will there be a match because the pitch is white at the moment.It's lined and ready since yesterday however should it clear up."
Snow gone so no problems in that area.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 09/02/2018 20:19:26    2075303

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