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Player drop out after Minor

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Replying To Whammo86:  "There look to be 19 clubs fielding at under 14 in Offaly. Could you get 8 or 10 good underage teams out of that. The larger clubs plus then regional teams. I think the onus should be on the county board to push for that really. You get 10 regional teams and get them playing a league competition plus a championship at every age grade u12, u13, u14, u15, u16, u17 I think you are going to get your kids playing more and better quality matches. Have underage league games every Monday night say from April to September. U12 and u15 one week, u13 and u16 the next week, u14 and u17 the next week. Games, games, games."
The drop out is happening before minor I would have thought.

sponger (Wicklow) - 10/11/2017 08:41:50    2061521

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Replying To sponger:  "The drop out is happening before minor I would have thought."
The problem with minor drop out is that its so final , we lost players every year from under 8 right through to under 16 , at the same time new players would come through the gates , when you lose players from under 16 to minor that's it as you do not get new players , whatever the chance of picking up 1-2 footballers per miracle you certainly don't get lads taking up hurling .
That's why minor is crucial and keeping guys involved

Damothedub (Dublin) - 10/11/2017 11:00:02    2061555

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Replying To sponger:  "The drop out is happening before minor I would have thought."
The problem with minor drop out is that its so final , we lost players every year from under 8 right through to under 16 , at the same time new players would come through the gates , when you lose players from under 16 to minor that's it as you do not get new players , whatever the chance of picking up 1-2 footballers per miracle you certainly don't get lads taking up hurling .
That's why minor is crucial and keeping guys involved

Damothedub (Dublin) - 10/11/2017 11:00:04    2061556

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I think you have to amalgamate. If it's a problem across Offaly they maybe need to bring in regional teams at underage. Get kids playing as many games as possible.

For the regional teams you get out as many teams as possible, so that as many kids are playing as can play. The best players are playing at as high a level as they can rather than messing around playing club football against some players that they are way better than."
At underage yes, adult level won't happen. Not like Offaly is a hive of employment anyway.
There's talk of divisional sides, but it's just talk.

LooseCannon (Offaly) - 10/11/2017 14:33:26    2061617

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Replying To LooseCannon:  "At underage yes, adult level won't happen. Not like Offaly is a hive of employment anyway.
There's talk of divisional sides, but it's just talk."
Yeah I think it's fine for it not to happen at adult level.

I think getting under 17s playing as much as possible is crucial.

Over 17 I think you're talking about needing to run as good a reserve league system as possible.

These guys can be playing adult football, just have to find them a level to play at.

There has to be regularly scheduled matches.

B league in Meath is really as hoc. You never know what weekend it'll be on.

Lower leagues should be put on Friday nights or Saturday mornings. Go play your game every week or every fortnight and then it's over early and you can enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Lower level championships can be played without county players, so make sure they're getting played during the summer.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - 10/11/2017 15:23:26    2061628

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Yeah I think it's fine for it not to happen at adult level.

I think getting under 17s playing as much as possible is crucial.

Over 17 I think you're talking about needing to run as good a reserve league system as possible.

These guys can be playing adult football, just have to find them a level to play at.

There has to be regularly scheduled matches.

B league in Meath is really as hoc. You never know what weekend it'll be on.

Lower leagues should be put on Friday nights or Saturday mornings. Go play your game every week or every fortnight and then it's over early and you can enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Lower level championships can be played without county players, so make sure they're getting played during the summer."
Reserve leagues are a great idea, however there's some clubs that can only field one team, I think there's around 6 or 7 clubs with one team in Offaly.

LooseCannon (Offaly) - 10/11/2017 15:51:51    2061635

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Replying To LooseCannon:  "Reserve leagues are a great idea, however there's some clubs that can only field one team, I think there's around 6 or 7 clubs with one team in Offaly."
Right so looking at Offaly it really looks to me like you don't play enough matches.

In football for instance you have teams only playing 5 league and then you have 7 championship games.

You have 30 clubs but only 25 field in the league and you then have 9 clubs fielding second teams in the league, with 14 clubs with at least a reserve team in the championship.

I'd try to have 2 All county league divisions. Plus 1 reserve division.

I'd have every team play everyone in their division once. Top 4 moving on to league semifinals in each division.

2 up 2 down between division 1 and division 2.

Shorter but more exciting championship.

Teams play in 2 groups of 4. 2 to semifinals. Bottom to relegation playoffs. 1 up 1 down.

Teams play more matches. Leagues can be played with or without county players so that there a regular games for everyone.

Championship only takes 5 weekends. Can be easily fit into September and October every year even working around hurling also.

The reserve championships can be played during the summer. So you'll probably have 2 reserve championships but a shorter reserve league. Reserve championship can be over earlier so that guys can play away during the summer but don't have to be involved later in the year.

It's all very simple. Just make sure to play more matches.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - 10/11/2017 19:12:06    2061673

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