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David Clifford to surpass the Gooch?

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Clifford WILL outpass the Gooch most likely in a BMW on the M50 south bound,"
Not if gooch is driving a Ferrari , don't forget he's testimonial Is coming up in a few weeks :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 13/10/2017 11:48:09    2055020

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Aye woops, who was it said gooch was a one trick pony?
Well jod was the one hit wonder :-)"
Do not agree with you there. Gooch was an excellent player and won his first AI against an average Mayo team. I was very close to the incident when he scored his first goal - he pushed the Mayo corner back and the Ref did not see it - pretty normal for Refs in AI's -just like the Murphy incident! DC is a very good player and has played against the Dubs just as the Gooch. I do not remember his marker in any match scoring 1-2!!

browncows (Meath) - 19/10/2017 00:30:05    2056131

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gooch has done it all. club county all stars, player of the year.generally regarded as one of,if not the best corner forward ever? very unfair on the young man who has his career in front of him to be mentioning him in the same sentence as the gooch. call back in 10 years and we will see!!

kavvie (Clare) - 19/10/2017 09:08:15    2056148

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Replying To kavvie:  "gooch has done it all. club county all stars, player of the year.generally regarded as one of,if not the best corner forward ever? very unfair on the young man who has his career in front of him to be mentioning him in the same sentence as the gooch. call back in 10 years and we will see!!"
Indeed a lot of awards alright.
However, just a note on the player of the year award which many top players never win. He never won the GAA All stars player of the year which is the seen as the official award.
Clifford is only starting out and may or may not make the grade but that's for many years down the road.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - 19/10/2017 11:19:09    2056178

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Gooch was a great and played on great Kerry teams.

Clifford was a great minor. If he's gonna win a haul of Celtic crosses he'll need a very good Kerry team to play in. Will also need management that can integrate some of their recent minors into their senior squad.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - 19/10/2017 12:35:43    2056199

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i see Clifford put in another man of match performance at weekend. will be better than Mikey Sheedy

mayoforsam17 (Mayo) - 19/10/2017 21:48:02    2056376

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give the lad a chance. i remember Mike Meehan and Sean Armstrong getting 3 goals each in an u21 final. Both had excellent careers but Gooch was on a completely different level to everyone else. u need luck (injury wise), a career that suits and u need to continue to develop. a different kettle of fish at senior level. i think he is in the right county to develop though. a few minor medals won't give him bragging rights in kerry!! He will be kept firmly on the ground.

hope he comes through though. was a pleasure to watch Gooch and the marque players before him.

Mayonman (Galway) - 20/10/2017 11:24:38    2056493

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texaco footballer of the year( the original and most prestigious award for gaa players since 1958 will do for me) 2004 colm cooper

kavvie (Clare) - 20/10/2017 17:32:51    2056652

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No pressure on Clifford so

dave1988 (Roscommon) - 21/10/2017 14:09:37    2056796

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is Clifford on kerry panel for next year?

mayoforsam17 (Mayo) - 27/10/2017 20:16:19    2058696

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Replying To mayoforsam17:  "is Clifford on kerry panel for next year?"
He is at the moment but jack O'Connor and fitzmaurice will sit down after the league and decide which team he'll play for either U20s or senior , if expect he be with the U20s though.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 27/10/2017 21:17:54    2058709

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Think if Clifford ends up playing u-20's next year it will say a lot about Eamonn Fitz's personality because it will mean he lost out to Jack.
Its ridiculous saying that Clifford will benefit from playing U-20's. He would absolutely lord it wouldn't be getting a proper challenge. If Kerry have an injury to the likes of JOD or Geaney questions would be asked why the hell Clifford is off with the U-20's.
He needs to be involved in the senior set up for the championship this year. Doesn't have to start but getting a bit of championship game time and being in around the senior squad is the best way for him to develop

as_ky (Kerry) - 30/10/2017 10:41:51    2059072

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Replying To as_ky:  "Think if Clifford ends up playing u-20's next year it will say a lot about Eamonn Fitz's personality because it will mean he lost out to Jack.
Its ridiculous saying that Clifford will benefit from playing U-20's. He would absolutely lord it wouldn't be getting a proper challenge. If Kerry have an injury to the likes of JOD or Geaney questions would be asked why the hell Clifford is off with the U-20's.
He needs to be involved in the senior set up for the championship this year. Doesn't have to start but getting a bit of championship game time and being in around the senior squad is the best way for him to develop"
I actually think playing with the U20's in meaningful matches would be better than warming the senior bench. Maybe put him in during the league and see how he gets on but he would be under huge pressure being put straight in to the championship panel. Whatever they do the players long term welfare should be the priority. It's a massive step up from minor where he had a huge physical advantage as well as being an unbelievable footballer. We aren't stuck for inside forwards at senior level either, so it's not as if he is desperately needed.

Arguably a bigger conundrum for Eamon and Jack is Sean O'Shea, who was a senior panellist this year and will surely be pushing for a starting spot next year. He is also eligible to play U20 afaik. We badly need new blood in the half forwards and this guy is the best youngster in the county after Clifford. Eamon has to be given priority here in my view.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - 30/10/2017 15:18:23    2059119

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I actually think playing with the U20's in meaningful matches would be better than warming the senior bench. Maybe put him in during the league and see how he gets on but he would be under huge pressure being put straight in to the championship panel. Whatever they do the players long term welfare should be the priority. It's a massive step up from minor where he had a huge physical advantage as well as being an unbelievable footballer. We aren't stuck for inside forwards at senior level either, so it's not as if he is desperately needed.

Arguably a bigger conundrum for Eamon and Jack is Sean O'Shea, who was a senior panellist this year and will surely be pushing for a starting spot next year. He is also eligible to play U20 afaik. We badly need new blood in the half forwards and this guy is the best youngster in the county after Clifford. Eamon has to be given priority here in my view."
Knowing Eamon he'll probably play Clifford in the halfbacks somewhere ridiculous like that.

Also we should be looking at Michael burns and daithi Casey in the half forwards along with seanie shea.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 30/10/2017 17:29:05    2059135

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Knowing Eamon he'll probably play Clifford in the halfbacks somewhere ridiculous like that.

Also we should be looking at Michael burns and daithi Casey in the half forwards along with seanie shea."
Casey a good club player. Not in same league as Burns and Seanie Shea

mayoforsam17 (Mayo) - 01/11/2017 16:15:21    2059566

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Replying To mayoforsam17:  "Casey a good club player. Not in same league as Burns and Seanie Shea"
Ah I'd give Casey another shot to be honest, players can mature at different ages plus we're not exactly overflowing with half forwards in the county at the minute .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 01/11/2017 19:03:17    2059616

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Looking forward to seeing Clifford in action next month. Will be a better player than Cooper. Reckon could win 7/8 senior AI with the crop Kerry have coming through.

BartMcQueen (Cork) - 01/12/2017 08:38:35    2064180

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Replying To BartMcQueen:  "Looking forward to seeing Clifford in action next month. Will be a better player than Cooper. Reckon could win 7/8 senior AI with the crop Kerry have coming through."
7/8 will be an under achievement with the crop we have coming through.

Superglue (Kerry) - 01/12/2017 11:19:13    2064197

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Replying To Superglue:  "7/8 will be an under achievement with the crop we have coming through."
No chance of that, Croke Park and the State itself will ensure the Dublin machine will keep on winning.

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/sporting-grants-breakdown-show-massive-weighting-towards-dublin-gaa-clubs-378685?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=ballsdotie&utm_content=Sporting%20Grants%20Breakdown%20Show%20Massive%20Weighting%20Towards%20Dublin%20GAA%20Clubs

TheHermit (Kerry) - 01/12/2017 11:26:57    2064199

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So it's like the GAA are feeding the dubs fillets of steak while the rest of the counties have to go to the soup kitchen.

The GAA are going to feck up the Gaelic football and hurling eco systems by driving money in to the dubs it's probably already too late.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 01/12/2017 11:45:31    2064202

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