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In Rugby Union, rule 5.7 (e) states: essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 02/10/2017 13:35:15 2052375 Link 0 |
Would be a decent addition alright, the hooter system would resolve all these issues in fairness but the GAA don't want to introduce this into the mens game for whatever reason? GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 02/10/2017 13:47:49 2052383 Link 0 |
Put the games back to 30 minutes a half with the clock only running when the ball is in play. The game is over when the hooter goes no matter where the ball is. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 02/10/2017 13:59:59 2052395 Link 0 |
The hooter system and visible clock make it very easy to run down and time waste towards the end of the game. People go on about it being brilliant in the women's game but I'm sure they're matching the same games I am. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 02/10/2017 14:02:02 2052399 Link 1 |
hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 02/10/2017 14:07:34 2052404 Link 0 |
Think it would be an excellent addition - The one stipulation would be the ball must go over the opposition endline to end the game,It would stop all that sh1te back & over keep ball you see in the Ladies game. shea (Kerry) - Posts: 409 - 02/10/2017 14:11:25 2052406 Link 0 |
I do find it very interesting when the time is shown off how long the ball is in play I think eir or setanta used to do it and the game is actually been played for very little time, so I definitely think the rugby union system should be put in place. Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 02/10/2017 14:41:23 2052421 Link 0 |
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 02/10/2017 15:02:28 2052430 Link 0 |
Good idea. Could make for very exciting finishes in tight games.
lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2989 - 02/10/2017 15:24:11 2052443 Link 0 |
think the women have the solution to this one..........too complicated for mens game though! Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1826 - 02/10/2017 15:30:00 2052445 Link 0 |
Didn't they try this in the league a few years back? For whatever reason, it didn't make it into the championship. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 02/10/2017 16:25:47 2052463 Link 0 |
I'd love to see it as a rule that for the game to finish the ball has to cross the oppositions goal line, either as a score or a wide. It would certainly be a better, and definitive, way to finish a game. dblackandamber (Kilkenny) - Posts: 92 - 02/10/2017 17:04:05 2052484 Link 0 |
Picture the manager on the sideline as his team, playing into a storm, hang on to a lead, built up in the first half, that is in danger of being wiped out. Time is up; the opposition have just scored to bring them to within a point, but the game must go on until the ball is carried up the field and put over the opposition end line. The opposition flood the 30 to 40 m area that the keepers kick might reach. Ah! yes you would surely get that manager's vote for such a change. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/10/2017 17:26:44 2052497 Link 1 |
But then you could make the point as to why his side didn't build a better lead with the wind in the first place. The idea of the switch around at half time is so that both sides get the same treatment. And the GAA can hardly account for the elements, if managers were allowed to make calls because of the weather, every team in the country would play the same side continuously. Managers opinions are important, but they shouldn't dictate how competitions or their rules are run, they'd only allow what's in their interests. dblackandamber (Kilkenny) - Posts: 92 - 02/10/2017 17:43:19 2052507 Link 0 |
Totally agree , its worse in the womens game , watch Dublin v Cork two years ago and tell me the hooter works
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 02/10/2017 17:53:25 2052512 Link 3 |
You would see it as 'fair treatment' that one team would play against the wind for a specified period of time, 35 min plus injury time, whilst the other team would have to play against it for an unspecified length of time (it could go on indefinitely if they were unable to get it up the pitch and over the end line). Does not seem like 'fair treatment' to me. True, the GAA can't control the elements but they do control the rules. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/10/2017 19:00:32 2052528 Link 0 |
The hooter system is a joke because it encourages time wasting and a referee can't do anything to stop the time wasting. In relation to the ball going dead, I disagree. When time is up then the whistle should be blown 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 02/10/2017 19:25:54 2052538 Link 2 |
The problem there wasn't the hooter system itself, the problem was that the referee didn't stop the clock when dealing with the last couple of fouls/bookings. I don't get the idea that because people can see the countdown clock it makes it more likely that they will run down the clock or time waste. Even in junior football players will always be made aware of how long is left in a game, so to think that a team playing senior inter county wouldn't know unless they can see a clock is a bit much. As for running down the clock, where is the problem with that. Dublin ran the clock down against Mayo this year. The only Mayo player to touch the ball in the last 3 or 4 minutes was Clarke for the kickout that went over the sideline, and while it may have been high risk stuff, and not good for people with a weak heart to watch, it was brilliantly controlled and confident football. If the time wasting is because of foul play or cheating, then the referee has the power to stop the clock, or as McQuillan did this year, to play on over the suggested additional time. AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 02/10/2017 21:18:14 2052567 Link 0 |
Exactly right. Running down the clock? It is up to the opposition to go and get the ball if it is in play. If it is a free or line ball the clock does not start until the ball is back in play. It actually stops all the messing like we what cost a U21 Championship this year when 5 minutes extra was called and the ref gave a penalty in the sixth minute. The only team that was delaying was the one who got the penalty award. If subs are been introduced the ball is not in play. There is much more messing with time delay as is.When the hooter goes the time is up, the game is over even if the ball is struck and ends up in the net.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 03/10/2017 20:31:17 2052825 Link 0 |
In ladies football the clock does not stop when the ball is out of play. It only stops for an injury which means the referee cannot add on any minutes for time wasting. I was watching a ladies football match one day,(not that I recommend it) but there were 2 minutes left and one team was winning by a point and they won a free. No injuries were involved in the incident but between one thing and another it took over 90 seconds for the free to be taken which was then kicked wide. It took a further 40 seconds for the opposition goalkeeper to retrieve the ball and take the kick out. This was 130 seconds of play which was wasted and the hooter went as the kickout was in the air. Nothing the referee could do about the 90 seconds wasted by the free taker or the 40 seconds wasted because the team in the lead stopped the goalkeeper from getting the ball back quickly. Its a bad idea and would encourage more cynical play
890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 04/10/2017 10:22:58 2052925 Link 1 |