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Wicklow club forced to play 2 games in 24hrs

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Wicklow team Doctor Brendan Cuddihy has walked away from his position after his club Eire Og Greystones were forced to play two championship games in the space of 24hrs.

Wicklow team Doc steps down in protest

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Administrator (None) - Posts: 2274 - 27/09/2017 19:20:20    2051129

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One was a hurling game and the other a football game so I don't see where he get this wouldn't happen in rugby or soccer.
the limerick ladies junior championship final was played at 9am to facilitate girls playing a rugby match later that day so they obviously don't have a problem like he thinks.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/09/2017 20:39:04    2051149

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Bit of a disgraceful situation to be honest

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 27/09/2017 22:26:11    2051182

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Not much to discuss really. Just another typical Wicklow GAA story. No wonder the county seems to be a GAA wasteland.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 27/09/2017 23:08:18    2051201

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this happens to the ladies ALL the time

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/09/2017 09:22:49    2051240

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Sure Corofin in Galway were forced to play Ballina Stephenites twice in 24 hrs in the 1998/1999 club championship as a penalty for the delay in the Galway championship as a result of Galway winning the 1998 all ireland. The fact that the first game was a draw was no excuse for the Connacht Council doing this at the time. In fairness what happened in Wicklow should be organised within with better fixture scheduling.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 28/09/2017 09:35:14    2051243

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "One was a hurling game and the other a football game so I don't see where he get this wouldn't happen in rugby or soccer.
the limerick ladies junior championship final was played at 9am to facilitate girls playing a rugby match later that day so they obviously don't have a problem like he thinks."
Surprised your post has got so many thumbs down hill. . .

To claim it doesn't happen in soccer or rugby is hilarious!

No rugby player who plays professionally in this country plays pro 14 on a Saturday and AIL on the Sunday.

Similarly, no first team premier league player plays for his club's u23 team on a Friday night if he's in the squad for the first team on Saturday.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 28/09/2017 10:05:36    2051251

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Why are lads bringing equaly other shi7 treatment as if its relevant , shi7 is shi7 , it shouldn't happen in any county , its a major reason why lads leave the sport

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 28/09/2017 11:02:15    2051273

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Surprised your post has got so many thumbs down hill. . .

To claim it doesn't happen in soccer or rugby is hilarious!

No rugby player who plays professionally in this country plays pro 14 on a Saturday and AIL on the Sunday.

Similarly, no first team premier league player plays for his club's u23 team on a Friday night if he's in the squad for the first team on Saturday."
Funny, your post implies that it doesn't happen in rugby or soccer!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 28/09/2017 13:00:47    2051320

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PoolSturgeon - nice old sweeping statement there good lad!

What happened specifically to Eire Og should not have happened! But it has happened to Wicklow County Hurling Champions several times in Leinster club action. Carnew won the county final on a Sunday and played Castletown from Laois on the Bank Holiday Monday, the next day!

Specifically responding to your derogatory comments about Wicklow in general, you should be aware of the great work going on in the development of the game of hurling in North Wicklow particularly. In 1997 Hurling barely existed in Bray or Greystones. Now we have 2 strong senior clubs able to match and beat Glenealy and Carnew, the 2 traditional champions of the county.

These two towns are among the fastest growing Hurling areas in this country! Wicklow won the U21B hurling championship in 2015 and lost the 2017 final to Kerry by 4 points. If you went back 10 years we couldn't field teams in minor Hurling. This is a positive GAA story, but don't let those facts get in the way of your fossilised opinion "that Wicklow is a GAA wasteland." I await your response.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 28/09/2017 16:43:13    2051398

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "One was a hurling game and the other a football game so I don't see where he get this wouldn't happen in rugby or soccer.
the limerick ladies junior championship final was played at 9am to facilitate girls playing a rugby match later that day so they obviously don't have a problem like he thinks."
Do you enjoy races to the bottom?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/09/2017 17:17:24    2051411

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Replying To Wicklowman:  "PoolSturgeon - nice old sweeping statement there good lad!

What happened specifically to Eire Og should not have happened! But it has happened to Wicklow County Hurling Champions several times in Leinster club action. Carnew won the county final on a Sunday and played Castletown from Laois on the Bank Holiday Monday, the next day!

Specifically responding to your derogatory comments about Wicklow in general, you should be aware of the great work going on in the development of the game of hurling in North Wicklow particularly. In 1997 Hurling barely existed in Bray or Greystones. Now we have 2 strong senior clubs able to match and beat Glenealy and Carnew, the 2 traditional champions of the county.

These two towns are among the fastest growing Hurling areas in this country! Wicklow won the U21B hurling championship in 2015 and lost the 2017 final to Kerry by 4 points. If you went back 10 years we couldn't field teams in minor Hurling. This is a positive GAA story, but don't let those facts get in the way of your fossilised opinion "that Wicklow is a GAA wasteland." I await your response."
Wicklow man
I understand were your coming from and why you would get defensive , however while a huge amount is being done spending a few bob on a good PR team wouldn't go amiss as all we ever hear are bad stories when it comes to Wicklow , who ever is responsible for promoting in Wicklow does a poor job.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 28/09/2017 17:23:26    2051414

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PoolSturgeon - nice old sweeping statement there good lad!

What happened specifically to Eire Og should not have happened! But it has happened to Wicklow County Hurling Champions several times in Leinster club action. Carnew won the county final on a Sunday and played Castletown from Laois on the Bank Holiday Monday, the next day!

Specifically responding to your derogatory comments about Wicklow in general, you should be aware of the great work going on in the development of the game of hurling in North Wicklow particularly. In 1997 Hurling barely existed in Bray or Greystones. Now we have 2 strong senior clubs able to match and beat Glenealy and Carnew, the 2 traditional champions of the county.

These two towns are among the fastest growing Hurling areas in this country! Wicklow won the U21B hurling championship in 2015 and lost the 2017 final to Kerry by 4 points. If you went back 10 years we couldn't field teams in minor Hurling. This is a positive GAA story, but don't let those facts get in the way of your fossilised opinion "that Wicklow is a GAA wasteland." I await your response.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 28/09/2017 17:33:20    2051419

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Why are lads bringing equaly other shi7 treatment as if its relevant , shi7 is shi7 , it shouldn't happen in any county , its a major reason why lads leave the sport"
I brought up limerick situation to show that rugby players are asked to play two matches in 24 hours, the guy who is talking in the article tried to make out this doesn't happen in soccer and rugby.
one of the matches here was football and the other match hurling so its a very simuliar context.they are asking the hurlers to play one day and the footballers the next day to play the two games two days running its not ideal no doubt but maybe the county board have a time constraint on when the championship has to finish, therefore your not technically asking the same team to play two matches. I remember ucd and kilmacud crokes after winning the county final playing in Leinster the next day.
county boards waste enough time throughout the year holding up club championship to facilitate county players involvement maybe the games should go ahead earlier in the summer regardless of county players availability and then you wouldn't have such a tight schedule at the end of the year, if slaughtneil beat cuala this year in the semi final they would have been in both finals on the same day.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/09/2017 19:52:41    2051454

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Do you enjoy races to the bottom?"
????????

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/09/2017 19:54:46    2051456

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Replying To Wicklowman:  "PoolSturgeon - nice old sweeping statement there good lad!

What happened specifically to Eire Og should not have happened! But it has happened to Wicklow County Hurling Champions several times in Leinster club action. Carnew won the county final on a Sunday and played Castletown from Laois on the Bank Holiday Monday, the next day!

Specifically responding to your derogatory comments about Wicklow in general, you should be aware of the great work going on in the development of the game of hurling in North Wicklow particularly. In 1997 Hurling barely existed in Bray or Greystones. Now we have 2 strong senior clubs able to match and beat Glenealy and Carnew, the 2 traditional champions of the county.

These two towns are among the fastest growing Hurling areas in this country! Wicklow won the U21B hurling championship in 2015 and lost the 2017 final to Kerry by 4 points. If you went back 10 years we couldn't field teams in minor Hurling. This is a positive GAA story, but don't let those facts get in the way of your fossilised opinion "that Wicklow is a GAA wasteland." I await your response."
Wicklowman, my comments were not meant to be derogatory and I will gladly take the rap on the knuckles you're giving me if that's the way they come across to you. They were a mark of exasperation more than anything else. I suppose I'm more in line with Damo the Dub above....we just hear bad story after bad story coming from Wicklow GAA and the message that comes across is that nobody (or very few people) within the county really care. It's good that someone like you came on here to defend your patch and show that you really care. Hope there's many more people like you within the county. You or someone like you should be doing the PR!
I'm glad to hear you say that there are great strides being made in Bray and other urban areas of Wicklow. I was in Bray with 2 Wexford men on the day Wexford played Kilkenny in the Leinster hurling championship this year. Have to say Bray didn't strike me on that occasion as having much familiarity or interest in GAA in general and hurling in particular. Scotland were playing England in a soccer international on the same day and the whole town seemed to be totally taken up with the soccer match and didn't seem to even be aware that there was a big hurling match on. It wasn't the easiest to find a pub to watch it in but when we did, I got the feeling we were an exotic species in town -- 3 mad men roaring at the television cheering on Wexford with the rest in the pub looking on at us wondering what all the excitement was about! Some of them then did show a bit of an interest when they saw us getting so hyper!

Anyway, keep up the good work and hope ye go from strength to strength!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 28/09/2017 20:03:07    2051460

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One was a hurling game and the other a football game so I don't see where he get this wouldn't happen in rugby or soccer.
the limerick ladies junior championship final was played at 9am to facilitate girls playing a rugby match later that day so they obviously don't have a problem like he thinks.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12547 - 27/09/2017 20:39:04
Mentioning Rugby and Soccer is extremely relevant as it doesnt happen as much. Yes there is examples of it happening but there is regulations in rugby that specify how much rugby you are allowed to play in a weekend/48 hour time frame. AIL(Senior) clubs play league games Saturdays and any player starts or plays more than "x" minutes cannot play on Sunday for their clubs second team.
And that GAA final played at 9am has nothing to do with rugby and lot more to do with GAA and game management considering it was moved/postponed on so many occasions.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/09/2017 20:58:32    2051482

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Ormond
the point your missing is it's very similiar.
the ladies were playing football and then rugby later that day, an agreement couldn't be reached so the games went ahead. In Wicklow case they will be playing hurling one day football the next(or vice versa I can't remember which is first)
they technically are two seperate teams in two seperate sport's just like the football and rugby scenario. It's bound to happen more in football and hurling as they are run by the same body and have a higher crossover of players between football and hurling and with both competitions being played at the same time, the county board hands are more than likely tied here with the competitions Having to be completed by a certain data to enable the county champions in both codes represent Wicklow in Leinster.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/09/2017 00:06:08    2051545

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "I brought up limerick situation to show that rugby players are asked to play two matches in 24 hours, the guy who is talking in the article tried to make out this doesn't happen in soccer and rugby.
one of the matches here was football and the other match hurling so its a very simuliar context.they are asking the hurlers to play one day and the footballers the next day to play the two games two days running its not ideal no doubt but maybe the county board have a time constraint on when the championship has to finish, therefore your not technically asking the same team to play two matches. I remember ucd and kilmacud crokes after winning the county final playing in Leinster the next day.
county boards waste enough time throughout the year holding up club championship to facilitate county players involvement maybe the games should go ahead earlier in the summer regardless of county players availability and then you wouldn't have such a tight schedule at the end of the year, if slaughtneil beat cuala this year in the semi final they would have been in both finals on the same day."
truly showing you have little or no appreciation of club football if you expect clubs to play the biggest games without their best players

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 29/09/2017 00:28:52    2051551

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dunno why a completely disgraceful situation is being glossed over..call it out for what it is

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 29/09/2017 00:30:03    2051552

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