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Kimmage rant at Jim Gavin

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Laois76
Yeah haha I wouldn't know about the talking too much bit but I never felt I needed it like most did, if at home I don't think I ever really had alcohol anyway and I only bought in a nightclub as minerals tended to be same price so felt like was getting robbed, never been someone to sit in a pub so made it easy to just not drink full stop. No major reason other than don't see a need to have it like I don't need other substances.
On the other point about being from laois don't worry I don't take people's counties into thinking when debating on here so you can count on us having some good debates if we don't agree haha"
Well that's it Hill when you don't need it..

Grand i look forward to upcoming debates :) I think i'm getting the reverse now. Any trivial statement i make is getting red thumbed to ground me!

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 30/09/2017 11:36:08    2051898

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Another case of a professional journalist heaping personal abuse at an amateur sportsman,
We can only speculate as to why .. headline grabbing? making themselves relevant? etc ...
In PK's defence he spent time in Mayo before the final and acquired a lot of sympathy, empathy and support for them.
Jim Gavin is a gentleman on and off the pitch and is very successful in coaching and career wise,
Thought it was comical to hear someone shouting aggressively in studio for JG to 'lighten up' and labeling him as 'classless',
As for tweeting Dublin fans as being the 'Hill 16 mob' and demanding that listeners text messages are not read out when he is on air ... whats that about?
I would seldom quote Joe Brolly but his pre match article 'Jim is winning matches but you wont hear him singing about it' gave a more balanced opinion. PK choose to ignore this and an article by Eamon Sweeney on 'Dubegrudgery' and retweeted instead an old article by Tommy Conlon 'Lighten up Jim, you are not Guardiola' . ......... (now how many All Irelands has the highly paid Pep won?)

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 504 - 30/09/2017 14:35:45    2051927

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Replying To Laois76:  "Well that's it Hill when you don't need it..

Grand i look forward to upcoming debates :) I think i'm getting the reverse now. Any trivial statement i make is getting red thumbed to ground me!"
HAHA dont mind the thumbs there very fickle
are you near portaloise

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/09/2017 15:53:44    2051944

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Replying To ritchie:  "I dont like Kimmage in a professional level. When he is on today fm on a monday he drives me cracked because he knows nothing about the sports being discussed and eats up my time listening to reports of football soccer hurling rugby etc with silly drivel that is completely self indulgent.

However

Regarding Gavin and Dublins tactics at the end of the match. Yeah he is right.
Gavin doesnt even look like he enjoys the game being completely stone faced for the duration of the game. He has taken dublin to a huge level of professionalism (not saying players are paid) but he has ensured with the support of the county board that they have literally everything they could possibly desire. He has a complete lack of emotion towards the game the opponents the media and that obviously filters down through the players. There was no out pouring of emotion by the team having made history in the final it was all just a PROCESS. Everything is a process. Its a massive achievement by the best team in the country and the whole thing feels soulless.

Dublin have the players .. check
Dublin have the financial resources ... Check
Dublin have the facilities .. Check
Dublin have the talent ... Check

But do they have the joy the pride the elation that comes with doing three in a row that would be a no. Do they know them selves that they are not playing off a level playing field and does that in some way take away from it in their own minds. I dont know. Its a shame. I love watching dublin the power the style the precision the ability. But then you look at dublin in injury time and its awful watching. But they dont care about that either cause its a process winning is a process.

Kimmage over the top . Definitely
Kimmage wrong .. On that one im not so sure.

The achievement has been done yes will it be remembered in the same breath as Kilkennys achievements in the hurling i really dont think so ."
Don't be ridiculous. There were Dublin players in tears of joy at the final whistle.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 30/09/2017 16:19:44    2051949

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "HAHA dont mind the thumbs there very fickle
are you near portaloise"
Live in Portlaoise now but i'm from the Laois/Kilkenny border. 8 miles from Carlow town.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 30/09/2017 20:59:37    2052015

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Replying To Laois76:  "Live in Portlaoise now but i'm from the Laois/Kilkenny border. 8 miles from Carlow town."
Lovely chipper on the main street in portlaoise when I'm going from Dublin to limerick do go in haha or in mountrath they have a lovely one there too and the park around by the river great little spot to stop off in.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/10/2017 09:13:32    2052072

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Obviously Dublin were prepared to break the rules to guarantee that we held on to our 1 point advantage in the last couple of minutes of the final.
Theres been an awful lot of hot air about it ever since. To be perfectly honest it was a form of cheating and if we were on the receiving end of it we would be the ones giving out.But also to be honest if Mayo were in the same position they would have done exactly the same.
Until there is a suitable punishment for a team or a player who commits a cynical foul it will continue to happen.
End of story.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 01/10/2017 17:14:50    2052134

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Replying To Condorman:  "Obviously Dublin were prepared to break the rules to guarantee that we held on to our 1 point advantage in the last couple of minutes of the final.
Theres been an awful lot of hot air about it ever since. To be perfectly honest it was a form of cheating and if we were on the receiving end of it we would be the ones giving out.But also to be honest if Mayo were in the same position they would have done exactly the same.
Until there is a suitable punishment for a team or a player who commits a cynical foul it will continue to happen.
End of story."
The ref could award a free in for it, that would stop it, the ref would need a fair set of stones though!!

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 01/10/2017 20:03:08    2052185

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Kimmage is a good journo by and large but prone to loosing the cool.
Gavin can be aloof but there's no denying his ability or achievements so the talk is cheap at the end of the day.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 01/10/2017 21:22:02    2052213

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Replying To catch22:  "Kimmage is a good journo by and large but prone to loosing the cool.
Gavin can be aloof but there's no denying his ability or achievements so the talk is cheap at the end of the day."
Dunphy looks laid back in comparison to Kimmage. I thought Fitzgerald's calm demeanour showed us exactly what Kimmage is like. Laughing and smiling when people are agreeing with him, too aggressive at times when he's challenged on something.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 02/10/2017 10:23:28    2052304

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Dunphy looks laid back in comparison to Kimmage. I thought Fitzgerald's calm demeanour showed us exactly what Kimmage is like. Laughing and smiling when people are agreeing with him, too aggressive at times when he's challenged on something."
Agreed, He does make some good points from time to time but it tends to get lost in the other over the top outbursts. He and Dunphy come across as two individuals who don't have any real knowledge of GAA and because it was front and centre recently felt the need to comment and just looked silly.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 02/10/2017 10:44:39    2052317

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