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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "To be fair to the lads they are still a fit punch for Amateur Athletics..premiership players and rugby players in the same age bracket as the Dublin lads are just not even close to been as fit as them,

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts:610 - 20/09/2017 22:31:37 2048815


Premier League players not even close to been as fit as Dublin footballers?

Could you show some evidence for this?"
here is stats from 2014

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i just feel Dublin and Mayo 2017 may have passed that stat of a premiership player

2017
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Maybe hoganstand might do a new update on figures

Remember my opinion is not going to be in the gospel next Sunday !"
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I'm an Atheist, thank God, but your gospel is as good as any!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 4620 - 21/09/2017 20:06:22    2049148

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "To be fair to the lads they are still a fit punch for Amateur Athletics..premiership players and rugby players in the same age bracket as the Dublin lads are just not even close to been as fit as them,

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts:610 - 20/09/2017 22:31:37 2048815


Premier League players not even close to been as fit as Dublin footballers?

Could you show some evidence for this?"
here is stats from 2014

link

i just feel Dublin and Mayo 2017 may have passed that stat of a premiership player

2017
link" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/smangan/gaa-inter-county-run/">link

Maybe hoganstand might do a new update on figures

Remember my opinion is not going to be in the gospel next Sunday !"
Firstly, you didn't give an opinion; you stated something as fact:

...consider the fact also there is a lot more work and running involved in modern day football than their would be soccer ...


It's why I queried it.

Secondly, the first link you provide from 2014 shows Premier League footballers to far fitter then GAA footballers.

The second link includes running stats for Elite Soccer (not the Premier League) which is American.

The running stats from 2014 for Premier League players easily beats the GAA footballers stats from 2017.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 563 - 21/09/2017 20:57:30    2049165

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "To be fair to the lads they are still a fit punch for Amateur Athletics..premiership players and rugby players in the same age bracket as the Dublin lads are just not even close to been as fit as them,

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts:610 - 20/09/2017 22:31:37 2048815


Premier League players not even close to been as fit as Dublin footballers?

Could you show some evidence for this?"
here is stats from 2014

link

i just feel Dublin and Mayo 2017 may have passed that stat of a premiership player

2017
link" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/smangan/gaa-inter-county-run/">link

Maybe hoganstand might do a new update on figures

Remember my opinion is not going to be in the gospel next Sunday !"
Firstly, you didn't give an opinion; you stated something as fact:

...consider the fact also there is a lot more work and running involved in modern day football than their would be soccer ...


It's why I queried it.

Secondly, the first link you provide from 2014 shows Premier League footballers to far fitter then GAA footballers.

The second link includes running stats for Elite Soccer (not the Premier League) which is American.

The running stats from 2014 for Premier League players easily beats the GAA footballers stats from 2017."]90 and 70 mins though.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1571 - 21/09/2017 21:20:53    2049176

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "To be fair to the lads they are still a fit punch for Amateur Athletics..premiership players and rugby players in the same age bracket as the Dublin lads are just not even close to been as fit as them,

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts:610 - 20/09/2017 22:31:37 2048815


Premier League players not even close to been as fit as Dublin footballers?

Could you show some evidence for this?"
here is stats from 2014

link

i just feel Dublin and Mayo 2017 may have passed that stat of a premiership player

2017
link" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/smangan/gaa-inter-county-run/">link

Maybe hoganstand might do a new update on figures

Remember my opinion is not going to be in the gospel next Sunday !"
Firstly, you didn't give an opinion; you stated something as fact:

...consider the fact also there is a lot more work and running involved in modern day football than their would be soccer ...


It's why I queried it.

Secondly, the first link you provide from 2014 shows Premier League footballers to far fitter then GAA footballers.

The second link includes running stats for Elite Soccer (not the Premier League) which is American.

The running stats from 2014 for Premier League players easily beats the GAA footballers stats from 2017."]Shane Mangan called it elite gaelic football and elite hurling...

Is that.....is that...is that american also ?

Elite soccer ball..

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 21/09/2017 21:32:27    2049183

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Guys it happens to all great teams, Kerry in 86, Tyrone should of beaten kerry that day, but the wise old heads of Spillane OSe and Sheehy dug them out that day, by using their experience, The were 30, 30 and 32 that day, and the following year against cork the legs were gone, a great team like Dublin will be in trouble next year unless those over 30 get moved on from the squad.

royce (UK) - Posts: 30 - 21/09/2017 21:33:04    2049184

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90 and 70 mins though.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts:939 - 21/09/2017 21:20:53

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That's actually a very good point TheUsername ..i think if it was 70 min Gaa football v 70 mins soccer i think from current stats from all ireland 2017 gaa football would be ahead !

But we still have to figure out if elite gaa football and elite hurling is american sport ! Because Cockney_Cat says elite soccer is american !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 21/09/2017 22:10:58    2049190

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Replying To royce:  "Guys it happens to all great teams, Kerry in 86, Tyrone should of beaten kerry that day, but the wise old heads of Spillane OSe and Sheehy dug them out that day, by using their experience, The were 30, 30 and 32 that day, and the following year against cork the legs were gone, a great team like Dublin will be in trouble next year unless those over 30 get moved on from the squad."
I wouldn't like to be the one who suggests it to them. :D

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1571 - 21/09/2017 22:15:48    2049191

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I wouldn't like to be the one who suggests it to them. :D"
Age of course is something that can't be ignored , neither is fitness and form , there are legendary coaches of which I believe Gavin is one and I doubt it's escaped his attention, this year team holiday was three weeks later than normal and afterwards lads were given a fair few weeks off before coming back and hitting it hard from may onwards , so while I'd have concerns I wouldn't be writing anyone off just yet based on birthcerts not with Jim at the helm

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 4875 - 21/09/2017 23:53:55    2049213

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Replying To royce:  "By the championship rolls around next year the Dublin age profile will be quite high.

Over thirty players from the team that played on sunday

1 S Cluxton 36
2 McMahon 31
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4 M Fitismins 30
5 C o Sullivan 30
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11 Andrews 30
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13 O Gara 33
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16 B Brogan 34
17 D Connolly 31
18 Mcmenamon 31
19 Flynn 32

Plus if you add in Bastick 36, Daly 31, and and MDMA 32, is quite an old squad."
Sure 3 out of 4 POTY nominees are over 33 so plenty of football left in most of those lads

Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts: 11462 - 22/09/2017 10:08:05    2049258

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Guys, the aforementioned players are class players but Father Time waits for no man, the speed from your legs goes as the years go by, 13 players getting passed their best will be a massive blow to the dubs.

The only saving point, is the rest of the pack are not up to scratch, bar Mayo,

royce (UK) - Posts: 30 - 22/09/2017 12:04:00    2049297

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I can't believe the media haven't picked up that the Dubs have peaked?

royce (UK) - Posts: 30 - 23/09/2017 11:05:47    2049540

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