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Joe Canning deserves to be hurler of the year with the nominations announced it looks odds on that JC will get his reward for been part of a team that brought Liam back west. heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 20/09/2017 08:22:11 2048412 Link 1 |
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How Gearoid McInerney was not nominated is bonkers really. He was dominant in every game he played and was one of the main reasons why Galway won Liam McCarthy this year. mon (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 20/09/2017 10:17:14 2048449 Link 1 |
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From the three nominated Joe Canning is getting it more as a reward for persistent year on year performances a la Ryan Giggs getting player of the year at 35/36..... Joe wasn't even the best player on his team this year. As someone said McInerney and the two cooneys and burkes were brilliant. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 20/09/2017 10:30:14 2048455 Link 3 |
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Well said. There's very little doubt in my mind what's going on here but I still think Barron will win it. A blind man can see he deserves it
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2017 10:36:11 2048459 Link 1 |
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Out of 3 nominated it has to be Barron dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 20/09/2017 10:54:55 2048465 Link 1 |
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Canning scored 4 points from play against Dublin fair enough, was very quiet against Offaly considering they are useless. Was kept scoreless from play against Wexford and did very very little throughout the game. Had an excellent semi final and had a poor final if we are being honest. He isn't the hurler of the year by a long way and shouldn't even have been nominated. It is media hype that is covering over some very ordinary performances. One good performance does not merit hurler of the year. The hurler of the year is for the best performer throughout the league, and championship and that certainly was not Joe canning. It wasn't Austin gleeson last year either. Nor is hurler of the year an award for consistency over previous seasons. Performances during 2017 is all that should be taken into account and for me that should be Jamie Barron or Gearoid McInerney 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 20/09/2017 11:07:41 2048472 Link 2 |
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juston the hurling all star nominations . westmeath fullback tommy doyle kept seamus callinan scoreless from play this year and gets no nomination mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1799 - 20/09/2017 11:11:22 2048474 Link 2 |
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I agree with your general point, but to say he had a poor final is nonsense. He set the tone with a fantastic score to open the scoring, sent over a wonderful sideline and another from play. He didn't miss a single free either, which kept our noses ahead at crucial stages. He had a knock in the second half and couldn't cover much ground. If that's a poor performance, there must be very few decent hurlers in the country.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2034 - 20/09/2017 11:24:25 2048477 Link 4 |
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Was he also marking Shane Dooley this year in the Leinster championship?
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/09/2017 11:28:02 2048482 Link 0 |
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Media hype this year is farcical. He hurled for 10-12 mins max against Tipp and he was Galways worst player in the first half. He got three fantastic scores but missed at least 3 easy chances in the first half. He was outscored this year from play by Niall Burke. He certainly wasn't a playmaker either. If he was then Galway would surely have scored more goals. I still stand by the fact that I don't think he can get an all star based on what I seen this year. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2017 11:33:03 2048483 Link 1 |
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The biggest moment arguably of Galways season was in that first half when Canning put in a huge hit on Breen, sending him out over the sideline. Canning then put the sideline cut over the bar from 60 yards. It was a real statement and I don't think there is another hurler in the country who could have done it, but Joe gets measured by different standards by many.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/09/2017 11:46:44 2048493 Link 4 |
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Its that type of rubbish that he gets the good and bad publicity he does. How can you pick out on incident? I'd argue a biggerimpact on the All Ireland series was bringing Glynn on against Tipp...Tipp moved Maher on him from 7 and he ended up playing the last 7/8 mins at number 2. Would Canning have scored the winner if Maher was there?
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2017 11:54:26 2048497 Link 1 |
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Vote for Joe the man you know Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 20/09/2017 12:05:23 2048503 Link 3 |
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You said he had a terrible first half and was Galways worst player, I was just highlighting how during that 35 minutes he came up with a huge moment that no other player in the country would be able to produce. You also say he wasn't a playmaker as Galway didn't score goals, there is only so much one man can do link His free taking this year was almost flawless as well, I'm sure a Tipperary man would appreciate the importance of that in a final!
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/09/2017 12:17:55 2048512 Link 1 |
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And the big question that everyone seems to be forgetting now is 'where to play Joe'. We'll just had to find two new threads to discuss in the fall of '17. 'Where to play Joe' & 'Proposals for new Galway hurling manager/management team' seem to have fallen by the wayside this year, for some unknown reason. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 20/09/2017 12:20:33 2048514 Link 0 |
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yes he was
mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1799 - 20/09/2017 12:44:45 2048534 Link 0 |
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If Maher was where? Standing right beside him? Maybe not. Standing any place else? More than likely. I wouldn't rate Maher a great marking half-back. Maher is considered a great modern day half-back imo because of his 'get to the ball first' capacity, his capacity for aerial domination, and his capacity to dominate his patch, and deliver offensive momentum for Tipp. He is less renowned imo for 'shutting down' his offensive opponent, especially if that opponent tends to rove, rather than attempting to compete all day with Maher in the same general location on the pitch. In other words, I don't think Maher has earned his defensive reputation from being a specialist man-marker. For example, Noel Connors gave an exhibition of this particular specific quality in the 2017 final, on the Whelan task. Maher is not that type of defender for me, so there might be no absolute guarantee of Maher's whereabouts in relation to Canning, even if he was his designated marker at the time. Besides, if TIpp lost the plot defensively when Glynn came on, is that Joe Canning's problem? No it is not, that is Tipp's problem. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 20/09/2017 12:47:59 2048535 Link 2 |
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It wasn't flawless. He missed ridiculous frees against Tipp. A clubmate of his told me at halftime he should be taken off
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2017 12:53:36 2048537 Link 0 |
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You hit the nail on the head when you said dominate his patch! For what it's worth my original posted was edited. Also his shutting down of opponents got Tipp to the final last year when he hooked Cooney. Galway possibly would have two in a row now only for it. My original point is taken out of context by the editing and I couldn't be bothered rewriting it! For what its worth Barron has hurler of the year sewn up tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2017 12:56:54 2048541 Link 0 |
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Do Galway people feel he deserves it more than Whelan , C Cooney, MCinerney or Daithi Burke? There's not one Galway hurling man I know who thinks he does but maybe people here do... tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2017 13:01:13 2048544 Link 0 |