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It's patently obvious there's an inherent psychological flaw with Mayo and getting over the line. Harsher critics may cite it as lack of bottle. There's also an issue with the supporters of the team now accepting it and lauding their 'heroes' and putting them on pedestals before they win anything. Paul Curran and Vinnie Murphy have said this in the media recently but most analysts don't seem to want to address the issue Elvis1935 (Mayo) - Posts: 46 - 19/09/2017 17:35:34 2048196 Link 1 |
BS They are a fine team who lose to better teams its as simple as that ffs Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 19/09/2017 19:26:29 2048232 Link 4 |
It's very obvious that you're not really from Mayo at all, but indulge me for a moment by telling me: what you would prefer Mayo supporters to do? Boo the team? Heckle them? Spit at them? What? Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/09/2017 19:29:31 2048234 Link 2 |
lol Mayo are so flawed mentally that they keep making it to finals? So mentally weak that they keep getting to the place where all the doubters have a pop at them. This Dublin team are lauded as the strongest panel there has ever been, yet the stats show that Mayo despite being more efficient than ever came up against a team who literally raised the bar another notch. Mayo are flawed at times but they genuinely were very unlucky to lose a great game. Mentally flawed teams and bottlers would not keep getting to the final stage every year training like dogs year in year out if they were mentally weak. If they were they wouldn't be able to raise their spirits every year. As for you referencing Vinny Murphy? Lol
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7889 - 19/09/2017 19:52:46 2048246 Link 2 |
100% correct. Apart from 1996, they have always been underdogs in any final they've played in. In 2013, 16 and on Sunday they beat the bookies spread. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 19/09/2017 20:25:16 2048265 Link 0 |
There are another 30 counties that need to develop that "psychological flaw". TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 19/09/2017 20:33:39 2048268 Link 0 |
Elvis... LEAVE THE BUILDING
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 19/09/2017 21:51:52 2048318 Link 29 |
I'll be the lone voice of agreement Elvis. Of course there is a Psychological effect connected to losing finals repeatedly and to say otherwise is folly. Plenty of studies out there on it that go in to great details explaining the different levels of it and the different contributions to it. If you look at some of them and keep Mayo in mind you can definitely tick a lot of the boxes.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 20/09/2017 09:58:03 2048436 Link 1 |
Its dawned on me that Dublin and Mayo must be the most despised teams around at the moment. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 20/09/2017 11:06:41 2048471 Link 0 |
Haha! Brilliant :)
GaaGaa78 (UK) - Posts: 285 - 20/09/2017 11:25:58 2048480 Link 0 |
As has been said by most others in this thread, Mayo are a phenomenal team who deserve a massive amount of praise for their achievements over the last 5 years. How anyone could question their resolve after what they've done this year and others, in coming back from the losses, is ridiculous. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2039 - 20/09/2017 11:40:22 2048487 Link 1 |
This whole psychological flaw and something missing thing is a load of bull imho. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1336 - 20/09/2017 13:22:52 2048549 Link 0 |
Well I'd sooner believe that than some silly curse. I think anxiety could play a role in not been able to get over the line. Vaughan's moment of madness would fall under that. Mayo seem to be fine chasing a game but when winning becomes a distinct possibility they seem to panic. The approach of Dublin is that its just another game, look at rock with his final free he takes his time focuses, nothing was going to distract him from the job at hand. O'Connor didn't. We hear a lot about fine margins the last few days but I do think the phycological part could be that fine margin. The trauma of losing finals must have a role to play. I think anyone involved with coaching can testify to this Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1592 - 20/09/2017 13:27:08 2048551 Link 1 |
There was nothing in that game , mayo dominated for periods of that game , was only a score in it at the end , no one could be upset with that mayo team they threw everything at it . To come back year after year is an achievement . To get them over the line I reakon they need one more forward and a free taker who doesn't get involved with every decision the ref gives , just concentrates on his game , hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 20/09/2017 13:36:58 2048556 Link 1 |
Vinnie Murphy had a point though, I suppose Mayo have lost so many finals that it's become almost the norm, I have never seen the likes of it in any sport that I can remember, Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2746 - 20/09/2017 13:48:14 2048565 Link 0 |
Whatever about the psychological aspect Mayo must be physically exhausted after such a long season this year in particular and over the previous years. A lot of the team should be rested for the early part of the league at least, even if it costs them their place in Division 1. lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2989 - 20/09/2017 15:24:36 2048609 Link 0 |
This Mayo team def has the mental resolve. 100% they do. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 20/09/2017 16:52:09 2048653 Link 0 |
Mayo have the worm in their brain Dublin had 10-15 years ago and must get rid of it the same way. This Mayo team can't. Perhaps a change of manager would actually help with better handling of young players coming through into senior ranks. cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 20/09/2017 16:56:23 2048655 Link 0 |
Yes we do have a problem we don't have enough good scoring forwards. We have the ability there to beat Dublin I believe but against that team once you give an inch they take a mile we didn't have enough of a lead to hold them off. Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 20/09/2017 17:22:28 2048667 Link 0 |
I think that the last thing Mayo need now is another management change unless of course Stephen Rochford decides to call it a day.
lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2989 - 20/09/2017 18:40:53 2048698 Link 0 |