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Great idea actually. Also cut the size out the panel on matchday down to say 22 aswell. That will cut costs aswell. I'd love to see this brought in now but only at county level. Games would open up so much more during the last 20 mins. You'd have 6 extra players on the pitch between both teams that would be normally subbed off. They'd be tired and that would allow the game to open up a lot more. Bring this in please GAA.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2032 - 07/09/2018 08:28:02    2140018

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Replying To cavanman47:  "As opposed to the 2004 motto; "Let's absolutely change everything to ensure Dublin win absolutely everything""
hahaha, even if all the money went to Cavan alone ye still wouldn't kick snow off a rope :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7021 - 07/09/2018 12:31:12    2140100

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great idea,can we reduce it to 11 a side too because presume having 15 players suits dublin too?

the only change i would make to substitutions is i would make the game go on while they are being made.the sub cant come on until the player comes off the field.the nonsense of stopping the game for a minute or two,while the sub who has just been told to go to the other side of the field saunters off,has to end.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 2959 - 10/09/2018 11:55:32    2140677

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Replying To perfect10:  "great idea,can we reduce it to 11 a side too because presume having 15 players suits dublin too?

the only change i would make to substitutions is i would make the game go on while they are being made.the sub cant come on until the player comes off the field.the nonsense of stopping the game for a minute or two,while the sub who has just been told to go to the other side of the field saunters off,has to end."
Wouldn't work at all with current attacking and defensive systems. Many times you'll see just the keeper in a half and he on the 45, imagine being allowed to just throw a sub up there with him and have a 1 on 1 out of nowhere as soon as the defending team turns over possession

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 37 - 10/09/2018 12:27:37    2140685

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "Wouldn't work at all with current attacking and defensive systems. Many times you'll see just the keeper in a half and he on the 45, imagine being allowed to just throw a sub up there with him and have a 1 on 1 out of nowhere as soon as the defending team turns over possession"
well he can sprint off while there is a free being taken,or a goal kick,whatever.instead of the nonsensical situation where the referee has to stop the game,get the sub on/off.
the only problem i see with it is at club level where there is no 4th official.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 2959 - 10/09/2018 14:42:29    2140737

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it helps the weaker teams because the likes of the Dubs cant say to lads. run yourselves into the ground for 40-50 minutes. then we'll bring on 6 fresh lads of the same standard.
almost every other county will struggle to have 15 good enough, so when they go down into their bench there is a big drop off in standard creating a bigger mismatch in the DUbs in the last quarter.
on Sunday if it was 3 substitutions that would have meant they only had 2 left after Cian OSullivan went off
centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 222 - 06/09/2018 21:57:14
It doesnt help weaker sides though. Dubs will still have strength in depth and you are causing issues with players and injuries making more player for full 70. And the dubs no matter how good bench are are not bringing 6 fresh guys of the same standard.

There are some utterly ridiculous statements on this thread. One person reckons banning time wasting sub's in the last 5 mins. Who decides what's tactical and what's just timewasting?
Reduce to 3 sub's? Anyone consider the knock on effect this would have on numbers playing in clubs and at underage level? In fact I'd increase to 10 sub's for all club underage matches and increase to 8 sub's for senior intercounty hurling and football, but I'd also increase playing time to 40 mins per half.
890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 941 - 06/09/2018 22:34:57
Id make bench smaller with never more than 25/26 and have rolling subs of 10-12 with a time limit on blood subs so as to stop them being an extra sub.
Why does playing time need to be extended and what would be benefit of it?

Great idea actually. Also cut the size out the panel on matchday down to say 22 aswell. That will cut costs aswell. I'd love to see this brought in now but only at county level. Games would open up so much more during the last 20 mins. You'd have 6 extra players on the pitch between both teams that would be normally subbed off. They'd be tired and that would allow the game to open up a lot more. Bring this in please GAA.
Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2025 - 07/09/2018 08:28:02
Why should match day squads be 22? What would you see as a breakdown of positions on a bench with 22 players and would it really reduce costs that much or at least enough for it to be worthwhile.

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 355 - 10/09/2018 16:13:36    2140790

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it helps the weaker teams because the likes of the Dubs cant say to lads. run yourselves into the ground for 40-50 minutes. then we'll bring on 6 fresh lads of the same standard.
almost every other county will struggle to have 15 good enough, so when they go down into their bench there is a big drop off in standard creating a bigger mismatch in the DUbs in the last quarter.
on Sunday if it was 3 substitutions that would have meant they only had 2 left after Cian OSullivan went off
centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 222 - 06/09/2018 21:57:14
It doesnt help weaker sides though. Dubs will still have strength in depth and you are causing issues with players and injuries making more player for full 70. And the dubs no matter how good bench are are not bringing 6 fresh guys of the same standard.

There are some utterly ridiculous statements on this thread. One person reckons banning time wasting sub's in the last 5 mins. Who decides what's tactical and what's just timewasting?
Reduce to 3 sub's? Anyone consider the knock on effect this would have on numbers playing in clubs and at underage level? In fact I'd increase to 10 sub's for all club underage matches and increase to 8 sub's for senior intercounty hurling and football, but I'd also increase playing time to 40 mins per half.
890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 941 - 06/09/2018 22:34:57
Id make bench smaller with never more than 25/26 and have rolling subs of 10-12 with a time limit on blood subs so as to stop them being an extra sub.
Why does playing time need to be extended and what would be benefit of it?

Great idea actually. Also cut the size out the panel on matchday down to say 22 aswell. That will cut costs aswell. I'd love to see this brought in now but only at county level. Games would open up so much more during the last 20 mins. You'd have 6 extra players on the pitch between both teams that would be normally subbed off. They'd be tired and that would allow the game to open up a lot more. Bring this in please GAA.
Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2025 - 07/09/2018 08:28:02
Why should match day squads be 22? What would you see as a breakdown of positions on a bench with 22 players and would it really reduce costs that much or at least enough for it to be worthwhile.

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 355 - 10/09/2018 16:13:36    2140791

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Replying To perfect10:  "well he can sprint off while there is a free being taken,or a goal kick,whatever.instead of the nonsensical situation where the referee has to stop the game,get the sub on/off.
the only problem i see with it is at club level where there is no 4th official."
A few years ago in a c'ship game between Fermanagh and Donegal (I think), A Fermanagh player was soloing the ball up the wing past midfield and looking up for a forward making a run. Donegal players had retreated back into defence so there was no danger of a tackle being put in. However a Donegal player had been receiving treatment off the field and, as the Fermanagh player soloed past, he suddenly sprinted back on to the pitch and put in a heavy, but fair, tackle on him. The Fermanagh player was caught completly by surprise and unprepared for the tackle. He had to be stretchered off the field and was out of football for a considerable length of time. No blame could be attached to the Donegal player but it shows what could happen if subs. were simply allowed to run on to the field while play was in progress.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1366 - 10/09/2018 16:56:28    2140812

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Replying To neverright:  "A few years ago in a c'ship game between Fermanagh and Donegal (I think), A Fermanagh player was soloing the ball up the wing past midfield and looking up for a forward making a run. Donegal players had retreated back into defence so there was no danger of a tackle being put in. However a Donegal player had been receiving treatment off the field and, as the Fermanagh player soloed past, he suddenly sprinted back on to the pitch and put in a heavy, but fair, tackle on him. The Fermanagh player was caught completly by surprise and unprepared for the tackle. He had to be stretchered off the field and was out of football for a considerable length of time. No blame could be attached to the Donegal player but it shows what could happen if subs. were simply allowed to run on to the field while play was in progress."
but a sub would have to have ran off in the exact same spot before the player ran on in what i am saying.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 2959 - 10/09/2018 19:07:41    2140848

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