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Anyone else getting tired of all this split Dublin into two Sh1 t they are the best team in the country but not unbeatable as shown in the league and Mayo should have bet them if they had better discipline and took their chances. Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 20/09/2017 11:51:40 2048495 Link 0 |
London and New York :-)
dubdec99 (Dublin) - Posts: 180 - 20/09/2017 11:58:56 2048498 Link 1 |
For the sake of the country I hope this is a joke :( sweet mother of god
Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 20/09/2017 12:25:42 2048518 Link 0 |
Where else has 1.5 million people to draw from? MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13692 - 20/09/2017 12:31:44 2048524 Link 2 |
Gaelic football was played for longer with 15 players and 3 subs than the current 15 and 6 subs. centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 20/09/2017 12:53:11 2048536 Link 1 |
I've argued this for a long time and its nothing to do with Dublin's success, I'm delighted for Dublin and love watching them. Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1571 - 20/09/2017 12:53:39 2048538 Link 0 |
For the sake of the country I hope this is a joke :( sweet mother of god Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts:183 - 20/09/2017 12:25:42 2048518 'For the sake of the country'. Are you not being a little dramatic Tarismelting? An anoymous poster, on a GAA forum that is full of crap, posts a radical point and you speak about it like it's Brexit? ;) Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 20/09/2017 12:54:45 2048539 Link 10 |
Yes I am anyway! In Dublin's 4 wins in the last 5 years they've won by an average of 1.5 points. They're the greatest team of all time- in close games. They're winners, but it's a fine line and they could have easily lost them finals. People used to say KK's 2nd team was the best in the country which was absolute rubbish too. Dublin aren't miles ahead of everyone. If Dublin is split then we need to split Kerry and Mayo as well. Either that or start joining the likes of Kildare and Meath! O'Rourke in particular looks pretty silly from this whole debate! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/09/2017 13:08:16 2048545 Link 0 |
This is a list of guys that have been around the panel for a year or 2 surely we can get 6 subs and 1 or 2 starters out of them Eoin O'Donoghue, Donal Newcombe, Caolan Crowe Serooise Akram, Seamus Cunnife, Michael Hall, Michael Plunkett, Conor Loftus Stephen Coen Shane Nally Conor Loftus Mathew Ruane, Danny Kirby Adam Gallagher, Feargal Boland and Briam Reape Playing. Each of these guys need 2/3 FBD games and at a minimum 3 league games. Obviously not all at the same time but they all need serious game time and work put into them A lot of these guys have one minor and U21 finals and the remainder in the most part have played in Minor finals Counties need to develop there panels - 6 subs is here to stay with pace and physicality of the modern game. That is why 6 substitutions are available its not to benfit Dublin, its just that they have developed a huge panel. belmay (Mayo) - Posts: 172 - 20/09/2017 13:26:38 2048550 Link 0 |
I think you missing the point We recognise that the Dublin players have given huge commitment and as a result are top of the pile. But other counties are giving the same commitment plus much longer travel times doing 300 mile round trips for instance on training days belmay (Mayo) - Posts: 172 - 20/09/2017 13:42:08 2048562 Link 0 |
So that's why Donegal won in 2012 and Kerry in 2014. And previous non-Dublin winners too maybe? Their players must have travelled less to training in those years. Simple fix so. Put all the Dublin players on a return trip to Athlone before and after each training session. That's surely the way to go. Stop them progressing so the rest can catch up rather than the rest progressively bringing themselves up to that level.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 20/09/2017 14:00:39 2048570 Link 3 |
If you are a student of the game you will be aware that Kerry have very few Dublin based players not sure about Donegal
belmay (Mayo) - Posts: 172 - 20/09/2017 14:31:21 2048580 Link 0 |
If you are a student of the game you will be aware that Kerry have very few Dublin based players not sure about Donegal
belmay (Mayo) - Posts: 172 - 20/09/2017 14:31:33 2048581 Link 0 |
Kerry have some fringe players living in Dublin, but not sure how far other players have to travel to training or what their situation was like in 2014. Don't know if Donegal players had far to travel to training in 2012, either from Dublin or elsewhere. We have 4 of last Sundays starting 15 living in Dublin, not including students. The great Kerry team, which I saw in '81, had Dublin-based players trained by Micheal O Muircheartaigh. In 2014 in Limerick was it less miles to training that got Kerry over the line in Limerick? No mention before 2011 about Dubs having very little time wasted going to an from training. Had we won last Sunday no-one at all would be talking about a 3 sub limit, how far Dublin players travel to training compared to others, splitting Dublin in 2 etc. Belmay, if we're good enough to win the All Ireland we will do it and not make excuses when we don't.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 20/09/2017 16:27:53 2048640 Link 3 |
Are you including my Auntie Bridie in that 1.5 million? She's really not very good , albeit an option if required.
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 20/09/2017 16:31:30 2048643 Link 2 |
Was the Black card not brought in cos' SC hauled down a Monaghan player? Cannot compare trying to eradicate foul play/synical fouls with an idea (or several ideas) that folk are motioning specifically to stop Dublin being successful. This discussion and other ideas have been clear that their point is to try lessen Dublin as a team. No one called for a black card with the reason being to lessen Ulster teams. Even suggesting Ulster teams are not winning AIs cos they fear the black card is a strange one too. Suppose it must effect Cork, Meath, Galway and indeed Mayo too in that case.
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 20/09/2017 16:43:03 2048648 Link 0 |
I've seen your Auntie Bridie play Poguemahone. Pretty nifty lady!
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 20/09/2017 18:56:45 2048707 Link 0 |
I like the interchange idea. Imagine if Mayo were able to swap Boyle and Moran in and out as required rather than having to take them off at 55 minutes. It could prolong the career of certain players which would surely help the teams with smaller panels. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 20/09/2017 19:16:20 2048720 Link 2 |
No it wasn't, it was voted in before Cavanaghs tackle. The idea of the card was to improve the sport and the same is true of why a change in the subs rule should be considered. It is not to stop Dublin being successful, it is to reduce some of the advantages teams with a bigger number of players to choose from have and make it a more level playing field. This rule would apply to junior club sides as much as the best intercounty teams. I have seen clubs not able to field a 2nd team because 23 or 24 lads have made an appearance for the 1st team in championship, often for only a few minutes. A change in the rule would be as helpful at club level as intercounty level.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/09/2017 19:32:14 2048735 Link 0 |
Sorry for being pedantic but the black card was already ratified when Cavanagh committed that foul.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4977 - 20/09/2017 19:33:20 2048737 Link 0 |