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Lee Keegan throwing GPS at Rock?

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Replying To Weary:  "Well said Sir. Agree 100%. He should not have done it but to anyone that has played they can at least understand. The sanctimonious caterwauling from some on here and other platforms is hard to take. Really is. To answer the last question I'd say it may well indeed be below 50% if not alot lower than that."
The reason I posted was similar to my take on DC , heat of the moment , some don't seem to understand different personalities re-act on the spur , when I've felt hard done by on a pitch I see red and slide tackle anything that's moving , I gave up playing to keep hold of friendship I was in danger of losing dear friends , when the legs go completely and frustration is all that's left but you still have that competitive fire its a dangerous cocktail.

Take a moment to think what was going through Keegans head , really where his logic was , another all Ireland slipping away Jesus if you seen the fans faces can you imagine the hurt frustration players were going through ? Wrong of course , should be looked at Yes , but calm down disperse the lynch mob and blow out the torches no need for a hanging

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 4791 - 22/09/2017 11:00:06    2049274

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Replying To Yourjoking:  "Don't think he's really having a go at dublin he's just highlighting what he saw at the game, maybe he wasn't at those other games you mentioned because if you watched it at home you would not see everything that was going on.
Now on the point he's right the last kickout was a disgrace ( and yes mayo would have done the same ) the ref should have stood back and waited until the dublin players give the mayo players there jerseys back and in some cases picked themselves of the ground, what can you do about it just start booking everyone that you see and linesmen see if it means 3 black cards and a few yellow then so be it this would stop teams employing this tactic."
He wants all the culprit retrospectively banned from the final!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 3350 - 22/09/2017 11:37:32    2049283

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Jackeen this is brought up because people are bangoing on about the Lee Keegan incident as if it is the most shocking thing ever witnessed. The whole campaign against him is tiresome."
I was specifically referring to the OPs call for retrospectively banning the culprits that were cynical from last Sunday. That's why I brought up the other instances. It's nothing new.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 3350 - 22/09/2017 11:41:46    2049285

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Was Keegan wrong, unsporting and disrespectful? IMO yes.

Should he receive sanction? If there's an offence and punishment specified in the GAA Official Guide for such an action.

Was it the worst thing that's ever happened on a GAA pitch, as some partisan hacks are suggesting? FFS, it wasn't even the worst thing that happened during the game.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 1459 - 22/09/2017 11:48:17    2049290

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Replying To Jackeen:  "I was specifically referring to the OPs call for retrospectively banning the culprits that were cynical from last Sunday. That's why I brought up the other instances. It's nothing new."
I just think the whole thing is painful. If all video evidence was reviewed from the 70 minutes there would probably be 20 bans handed out for various things!

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 5774 - 22/09/2017 11:51:25    2049291

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Replying To Jackeen:  "Absolutely nothing different in what the Dubs did than what Mayo did in 2012, Dubs in 2013, Kerry in 2014, Kerry in league final 17 & Mayo in 17 v Kerry off the top of my head only. Why are you singling out Dublin?"

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 386 - 22/09/2017 12:32:46    2049306

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Replying To Jackeen:  "Absolutely nothing different in what the Dubs did than what Mayo did in 2012, Dubs in 2013, Kerry in 2014, Kerry in league final 17 & Mayo in 17 v Kerry off the top of my head only. Why are you singling out Dublin?"
I wholeheartedly agree with you, and therein I rest my case, cynicism to combat skill, win at all costs

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 386 - 22/09/2017 12:34:54    2049307

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I just think the whole thing is painful. If all video evidence was reviewed from the 70 minutes there would probably be 20 bans handed out for various things!"
Exactly!!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 3350 - 22/09/2017 13:04:33    2049315

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Replying To El_Torro:  "It's more ironic for anyone from Monaghan considering the dodgy tactics employed by Monaghan teams down the years, people in glasshouses indeed.
Keegan deserves a lenghy ban for this alright"
You've crawled back out I see, no shame losing by point eh what? Or 12. Lee was probably thinking what would Sean cavanagh have done

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 596 - 22/09/2017 13:24:55    2049323

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Replying To essmac:  "This thread is a load of nonsense.

Keegan's offence was this one:

"4.19 To interfere with a player taking a free kick or sideline kick by jumping up and down, waving hands, or any other physical or verbal interference considered by the referee to be aimed at distracting the player taking the kick."

The novelty of his method is irrelevant. It was just the standard offence of interfering with a player taking free kick. The prescribed penalty for this is to move the ball up 13 metres. No advantage would have resulted here, as Rock scored it anyway.

That's it. No cards, just move the ball up.

Minor incident; yet Charlie wants blood. Shows three things about Charlie:

1. Doesn't know the rules of the game;
2. Gets confused when a novel way of committing an exidsting offence is found; and
3. Is vindictive. Dublin won, controversially enough to my neutral eyes, and he starts a witch-hunt over something as trivial as this - an offence for which the prescribed penalty is to move the ball forward 13 metres. And obviously, ignores Dublin's cynical, synchronised wrestling match in the last few minutes and an earlier attempted mouth/eye gouge.

Calm down, look at the rule book and move on folks. No need to follow an agenda set by a man who, in 1995, didn't know where the sideline was."
We will have to have a replay then!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 596 - 22/09/2017 13:26:52    2049326

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All these posters calling for bans for all sorts of incidents - have any of them played at a level above junior C in their own counties? I would though like to see games being refed in a more balanced way. About the Keegan incident! he made a poor aim by not hitting the ball, unlike the Dublin guy who kicked the tee!!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1722 - 22/09/2017 13:46:07    2049336

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Replying To Brianmac78:  "I love all the move on nothing to see here. Had a Dub thrown it at a Mayo man would it be the same? Oconnors free off the post say mcmahon threw the gps at that point would it be ok to forget it and move on?"
all hypotheticals, doesn't change the outcome

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 315 - 22/09/2017 16:43:23    2049394

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There's a vindictive thread to Charlie's media attacks

Keegan last years POTY spoling the party by just about the only non dub to win anything of note in the last 3 years

I recall him having a rant at McGuiness - the last person to manage a team that beat Dublin suppose he couldn't find a reason to blame a non playing sub for his peno pass into the canal end ( 25 years ago today )

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4939 - 23/09/2017 07:51:30    2049500

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Wouldn't it be interesting to know if mcquillan would have allowed the free to be retaken 13 mtrs closer if Rock had missed? Skin and hair flying then.

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 354 - 23/09/2017 09:01:16    2049503

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People need to get over it,Keegan was very wrong doing that of course he was but I find it a bit rich that one of the biggest tugs to ever play gaa charlie Redmond is having a go just like last year with that campaign that worked to get Keegan blackcarded for replay,why isn't charlie talking negatively about Dublin because I never witnessed a more cynical fouling team I'm an all Ireland final then last Sunday and of course o gara ,cormac Costello sent on just to wrestle mayos Brendan Harrison and Costello also with that tee incident ,Dublin are a phenomenal team but get a way with murder ,wonder will charlie Redmond mention anything about that

Galwayjoe86 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 23/09/2017 09:20:45    2049507

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Replying To browncows:  "All these posters calling for bans for all sorts of incidents - have any of them played at a level above junior C in their own counties? I would though like to see games being refed in a more balanced way. About the Keegan incident! he made a poor aim by not hitting the ball, unlike the Dublin guy who kicked the tee!!"
Thank you Dara Ò Cinnèide for your article on cynicism on today's Irish Examiner I too played the game to a fairly high level Dara adorned it at cCollege Club And County level for over a decade he should know what he is talking about Yes our games could do without the unsporting acts of last Sunday Incidentally Dara himself was that first victim of the swarm tackle in the 2003 semifinal for me the day the music died The new negativity was cononised by a referee who stood idly by in those first 10 mins as the blanket was spread and the clawing punching tackle cream into the new defensive game YouTube has the video in its repertoire

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 386 - 23/09/2017 09:39:18    2049513

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It was an act of frustration and nothing more. I just wish the same understanding was available to all players. This vilification of amateur players is particularly part and parcel of Gaelic football and follows nearly every game. How many times in hurling as a player strikes the sliothar into the net have you seen hurleys flying after it? Media pundits/fans have strange attitudes, Connolly gets 12 match ban and Austin Gleeson gets our sympathy but its all about the colour of the jersey mostly a witch hunt organised by that Kerry mouth and now this one!!
Rock was way too focussed to see/notice and he put it over, end of matter.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3586 - 23/09/2017 09:55:24    2049519

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Replying To 37sowhat:  "Thank you Dara Ò Cinnèide for your article on cynicism on today's Irish Examiner I too played the game to a fairly high level Dara adorned it at cCollege Club And County level for over a decade he should know what he is talking about Yes our games could do without the unsporting acts of last Sunday Incidentally Dara himself was that first victim of the swarm tackle in the 2003 semifinal for me the day the music died The new negativity was cononised by a referee who stood idly by in those first 10 mins as the blanket was spread and the clawing punching tackle cream into the new defensive game YouTube has the video in its repertoire"
I think you have to take whats in the Cork Examiner with a pinch a salt of mate, its essentially a Munster paper and playing to the crowd down there. Their job of work is to help the recovery narrative in a disappointing year for Munster GAA at Senior level on the biggest days.

My own opinion is that neither of the last four teams in the championship leave the championship with their held high when it comes to cynicism and if your judging by that standard all served up poor fare and are poor examples. That said for drama and quality of play it was there in abundance. Maybe a balance needs to be struck, we really dont want a game thats gone like soccer were any physical contact is akin to a reaction of being shot by a sniper.

Truth be told cynicism can counteract quality, and if you lack quality you have to employ it. The other team has to respond in kind or be out matched despite maybe having more quality. Calibrating how to govern that is a tricky task. You see so many on here given out about soft frees and referees.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1278 - 23/09/2017 11:04:41    2049539

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This issue is a complete smokescreen for more sinister aspects that happened in the game. A counter claim to create a red herring from other stuff.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3170 - 23/09/2017 14:16:38    2049588

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Replying To Donegalman:  "This issue is a complete smokescreen for more sinister aspects that happened in the game. A counter claim to create a red herring from other stuff."
agreed

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2062 - 23/09/2017 20:08:05    2049707

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