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Dont say the curse isn't real

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Vaughans moment of madness
O'Connors miss
The free that should have been a penalty

Don't say the curse isn't real.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 17/09/2017 17:34:17    2046768

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Youd need a heart of stone not to feel sorry for their legions of fans

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 17/09/2017 18:00:32    2046826

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The curse isnt real! Mayo aren't good enougj to get over the line

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 17/09/2017 18:08:10    2046834

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The curse is a load of nonsense. They were playing one of the greatest football teams and lost by a point. Stupid thread

fireinthebelly (Galway) - Posts: 89 - 17/09/2017 18:15:15    2046840

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Vaughans moment of madness
O'Connors miss
The free that should have been a penalty

Don't say the curse isn't real."
I think youre being very kind to Vaughan, O Connor and McQuillan with your theory

3Dhurling (Laois) - Posts: 24 - 17/09/2017 18:26:23    2046857

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Replying To 3Dhurling:  "I think youre being very kind to Vaughan, O Connor and McQuillan with your theory"
In fairness it's not just those three incidents. Look at last years final. Not one but two own goals. Was there an own goal in any league or championship game this year? Coyles bouncing point in 1996 to equalise for meath. Today the just couldn't get the rub of the green. As Al Pacino said it's a game of inches, Mayo just do not get that inch they need. An inch to the left and O'Connor has scored the winning point in an all ireland final, if Joe was a few inches closer would he have given the penalty rather than a free? 11 finals in my lifetime and not one win. It's hard not to think that there isn't a curse somewhere.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 17/09/2017 18:50:56    2046886

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The only curse is one of poor shooting at times.

The whole curse theory has been debunked at this stage.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 17/09/2017 20:37:14    2046975

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Replying To Gleebo:  "The only curse is one of poor shooting at times.

The whole curse theory has been debunked at this stage."
How has it? The last 2 All Irelands involving Mayo and the cruel way they lost would make you think that maybe there's something in this.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9696 - 17/09/2017 22:01:17    2047047

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "How has it? The last 2 All Irelands involving Mayo and the cruel way they lost would make you think that maybe there's something in this."
There was a documentary done a couple of years ago called "Mallacht Mhaigh Eo" in which they interviewed several of the surviving players from the 1951 All-Ireland winning side. It's up on YouTube if you want to see it. Anyway, none of the players could remember any such incident. Moreover, there were no funerals in Foxford, where the incident supposedly took place, that week.

Look, I'm as upset as any Mayo man not to have won it today. But there are several prosaic explanations for our loss without resorting to the supernatural, such as:

-Losing our fullback to a crazy sending-off;

-Missing a sitter of a goal chance to put us four up;

-Cillian missing two relatively simple frees by his standards;

-Some simple chances missed in the first half when Mayo were on top;

-Last but not least, Dublin being a superb team with a formidable bench.

The only way to get over the line is to examine why you failed and come back better.

My only fear is that my grandfather, who was an infant when Mayo last hoisted Sam, and who has been in ill health in recent years, will go to his reward without seeing it. That's just life; it never has and never will be fair, and there are far greater injustices in this world than losing a few football matches.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 17/09/2017 23:13:25    2047095

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I dont know how Mayo could have played any better today. They did their very best. I think what lost them the game was the Dublin bench. Every time they went up the pitch, they looked lively in the 2nd half while Mayo was labouring to create chances a lot of the time, especially in the final 10 minutes.

I think that Vaughan will be very haunted by his reaction that got him the red. It was a harsh red and a perfect opportunity for McQuillan to instantly balance the books. This moment more than any other in the game cost Mayo a potential win.

Regarding a curse, I think that Mayo rode their luck v derry in castlebar so it is more a law of averages regarding luck over a season. Today they were very good, but alas not good enough.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 17/09/2017 23:31:40    2047113

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "How has it? The last 2 All Irelands involving Mayo and the cruel way they lost would make you think that maybe there's something in this."
Hard to credit that anyone could believe in this nonsense in 2017. Every underachieving county has had a "curse" associated with it. Clare had the Biddy Early one, Kildare allegedly have one. I grew up being told about the one that was on the Galway hurlers. Thankfully that was shattered in 1980. Mayo did not play well enough in any of the finals they have lost. Ironically had they played as well in the final against Donegal some years ago as they did today they'd have won that particular final and this nonsense of the curse would be history

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 17/09/2017 23:57:28    2047144

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Hard to credit that anyone could believe in this nonsense in 2017. Every underachieving county has had a "curse" associated with it. Clare had the Biddy Early one, Kildare allegedly have one. I grew up being told about the one that was on the Galway hurlers. Thankfully that was shattered in 1980. Mayo did not play well enough in any of the finals they have lost. Ironically had they played as well in the final against Donegal some years ago as they did today they'd have won that particular final and this nonsense of the curse would be history"
Laois have one that they'll never win a senior all ireland with the name of Delaney on the team. All similar theme.. Members of that family left mass early for a match and were cursed by a priest. This was when Laois won 3 Leinsters in a row in the 1930s and were all ireland contenders.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 18/09/2017 00:40:57    2047175

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The curse isn't real

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 18/09/2017 10:24:11    2047289

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Check out An Mhallacht on facebook, a new comedy short film based on the Mayo curse...

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 18/09/2017 22:37:37    2047790

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Replying To Donegalman:  "I dont know how Mayo could have played any better today. They did their very best. I think what lost them the game was the Dublin bench. Every time they went up the pitch, they looked lively in the 2nd half while Mayo was labouring to create chances a lot of the time, especially in the final 10 minutes.

I think that Vaughan will be very haunted by his reaction that got him the red. It was a harsh red and a perfect opportunity for McQuillan to instantly balance the books. This moment more than any other in the game cost Mayo a potential win.

Regarding a curse, I think that Mayo rode their luck v derry in castlebar so it is more a law of averages regarding luck over a season. Today they were very good, but alas not good enough."
Nothing harsh about the red. The ref got that right. Totally stupid reaction I'm afraid to an incident was being dealt with.

Mayfair (Galway) - Posts: 65 - 18/09/2017 23:01:44    2047808

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Biddy Earley cursed Clare for 81 years. She said if Clare wernt good enough to win then they wouldnt win. Then when they were good enough... guess what.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 18/09/2017 23:14:18    2047815

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Replying To Donegalman:  "I dont know how Mayo could have played any better today. They did their very best. I think what lost them the game was the Dublin bench. Every time they went up the pitch, they looked lively in the 2nd half while Mayo was labouring to create chances a lot of the time, especially in the final 10 minutes.

I think that Vaughan will be very haunted by his reaction that got him the red. It was a harsh red and a perfect opportunity for McQuillan to instantly balance the books. This moment more than any other in the game cost Mayo a potential win.

Regarding a curse, I think that Mayo rode their luck v derry in castlebar so it is more a law of averages regarding luck over a season. Today they were very good, but alas not good enough."
I don't believe in any such nonesence, neither do I believe that the bench won it for Dublin. Mayo were the better team, as they were in the first game last year, but they were no clinical enough. Even when O'Connor's late free came down off the upright the Mayo players were slow to react - Drake was in a great position to take advantage of it but hadn't anticipated that a rebound might happen.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 18/09/2017 23:32:18    2047824

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Oh for God's sake. What a rubbish thread.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 19/09/2017 07:44:26    2047881

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Replying To gotmilk:  "In fairness it's not just those three incidents. Look at last years final. Not one but two own goals. Was there an own goal in any league or championship game this year? Coyles bouncing point in 1996 to equalise for meath. Today the just couldn't get the rub of the green. As Al Pacino said it's a game of inches, Mayo just do not get that inch they need. An inch to the left and O'Connor has scored the winning point in an all ireland final, if Joe was a few inches closer would he have given the penalty rather than a free? 11 finals in my lifetime and not one win. It's hard not to think that there isn't a curse somewhere."
I don't agree. An inch to either side and they could have lost games to Cork, Derry, Rosccommon or Kerry. Mayo did brilliant to get to the final where although not far off they were beaten by the best team in Ireland.
Its a panel game where Dublin were bringing on superstars like Connolly who was perfect when the game was in the melting pot.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 19/09/2017 08:24:35    2047889

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If mayo had played football anything near the level of this year and last especially sunday just gone in final against Donegal they would have won handy
As for a curse this year as in last year individual errors cursed them not a roscommon priest from 1951

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1763 - 19/09/2017 08:50:23    2047893

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