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I myself think the man is a legend I think theirs another All Ireland their give the man a chance to do it. Sheaamy1976 (Tyrone) - Posts: 21 - 30/08/2017 11:28:22 2040659 Link 1 |
Only Tyrone Gaels can really answer this but my opinion looking in from the outside: yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 30/08/2017 11:51:11 2040670 Link 0 |
Created the below topic on the Tyrone Forum, but sure here is my take on it Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 30/08/2017 12:06:39 2040676 Link 0 |
The only question I have for Tyrone lads is can they name me a modern thinking manager with the know how to get more out of their county men than MH? if they whole heartedly believe so then I wouldn't object to change but so far I've heard little to nothing about replacements and nothing but 'time to go'. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 30/08/2017 12:06:40 2040677 Link 0 |
Time for change. So fed up watching the horrible football we play. Mayo last year, Dublin this year. Tactics all wrong. We need to try and win games, not spend the whole 70 mins trying to stop the opposition scoring. Anyone in Croker last Sunday could see we needed to try something different after 10 mins. What did we do ?? Nothing. I don't think we would have beaten the Dubs but at least we could have tried. But we blew it big style last year against Mayo with those tactics and we don't seem to have learnt anything. Change us long overdue Redhandsam (Tyrone) - Posts: 93 - 30/08/2017 12:19:29 2040685 Link 1 |
Do you not think he has had his chance Sheaamy ? How long more can you give him ?
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 30/08/2017 12:20:54 2040686 Link 1 |
they've been saying that for the last 10yrs and he hasn't delivered. Sometimes you can just stay around too long. Time to push the reset button and get new fresh faces and ideas on board. Sentimentality is no longer good enough, supporters had got used to a certain amount of success and living on the successes of the 00s team hasn't delivered another AI. As evidenced on sunday past, the players were devoid of any idea how to continue as they have been coached to a system and when it failed no plan seemed to be in place if plan a didn't work. Looking at the side line they also didn't seem to have a clue what to do, it looked like they were stunned, with mh standing like an expressionless statue and resigned to the fact that they'd got it completely wrong. Time to move over mickey your record is impeccable and you owe tyrone nothing, in fact tyrone owe you a deep gratitude for the success and the expectation of even more success.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 30/08/2017 12:20:58 2040687 Link 0 |
I have said it before and I will say it again that the fairest and most natural process to replace a senior manager is to allow the underage management team progress and bring their players through. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 30/08/2017 12:27:16 2040690 Link 0 |
Mickey Harte is the Arsene Wenger of the GAA. A well respected man who has achieved a lot in the noughties and who has refused to change his beliefs and tactics to adapt to the modern game. As a manager he owes the county nothing and form the outsiders perspective unless hes willing to change tact; he should walk off into the sunset. theblackcard (Mayo) - Posts: 47 - 30/08/2017 12:37:39 2040694 Link 0 |
I think after a beating like that which there wasn't even a slight silver lining. Nothing should be on or off the table in Tyrone. GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 30/08/2017 12:38:51 2040695 Link 0 |
Stay for one more year, then go. oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 30/08/2017 12:42:24 2040696 Link 0 |
It's an internal matter for Tyrone but when the time comes for new leadership look no further than Peter the Great. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1667 - 30/08/2017 12:53:44 2040702 Link 0 |
Not sure whether Mickey should stay or go but I definitely wouldn't base it on the display last weekend. For me the Tyrone players did not play anywhere near their full potential, maybe the occasion got to them. People are talking about no plan B but plan A never kicked into action. If the players had of executed plan A then that would have kept Tyrone in the game, they wouldn't have won the game but it would have been closer. Tyrone were playing great stuff this year and putting up massive scores, so its not fair to say they have no attacking plan. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 30/08/2017 13:13:56 2040716 Link 0 |
I think Mickey Harte should step down. He has nothing to prove to GAA followers, having won 3 All Ireland titles in the last decade, putting Tyrone up with the best counties. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 30/08/2017 13:32:24 2040723 Link 0 |
It is a fair point that Tyrone did not play close to their potential on Sunday but on the other hand they just let Dublin waltz through them at every opportunity. Don't get me wrong, this current Dublin side is one of the best, if not the best team to ever have played but we made them look unstoppable which I don't think they are. If you push up on their kick outs, match their intensity levels and put them under pressure by attacking their defense at every opportunity then you can cause them real problems, we did none of these as we expected our system to triumph regardless of how we actually performed individually. I just don't believe that Mickey can take us any further. Our previous U21 Management team may play a similar style but they may also be up for trying something different. Even a new voice in the changing room can have a massive difference on the players attitude in a big game like All Ireland Semi-Finals. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 30/08/2017 13:46:09 2040733 Link 0 |
can't see him leaving the lucrative sky job { to get travel expenses to drive 3mile to garvaghy ahem } plus he wouldn't want to step in just yet with the hysteria to keep mh. Maybe time for tony Donnelly and fergal McCann to come back as things seemed to slip when those two quit , no doubt the county will be split no matter what the outcome
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 30/08/2017 13:53:04 2040739 Link 0 |
Why? (Not having a go and haven't made my mind up on what I think Tyrone should do, just wondering what your logic is) cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 30/08/2017 13:59:03 2040741 Link 0 |
Tony Donnelly and Fergal McCann left in 2014, shortly after we were comprehensively beaten by Armagh in a 2nd round qualifier in Omagh. Whatever anyone's thoughts on Mickey, you must be the only man in Tyrone who yearns for a return to those halcyon days...
Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 30/08/2017 16:01:25 2040799 Link 1 |
Too soon to say. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 30/08/2017 16:35:20 2040816 Link 0 |
Time will indeed tell but I have little doubt that Mayo will be far closer that Tyrone were. Now, perhaps it was an off day but they seemed completely lost as did management. MH has been brilliant for Tyrone but perhaps it is time to move on from the style which at present seems to hinder rather than help. The problem is it doesn't look like MH has seen that the game is moved on. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 30/08/2017 16:54:13 2040821 Link 0 |