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Replying To thelowball:  "Not much to 'sing' about really, the Donegal tune is getting really old, we all know who is blinkered, blinkers will not won for u Bonner or this twisted Donegal regime who are satisfied to carry on as perennial losers!"
Sillier your getting lad. A wee rest will do you no harm. In bonner we trust.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2401 - 27/09/2021 16:01:35    2383190

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U and ur boy Bonner extremely well rested,another six months will see u boys out for good. Guess when your tone deaf u don't know when to leave! Another Ulster fiasco should see u boys silenced for good. Do u honestly think u can get near Tyrone, never mind the div 3 and 4 teams. That are around

thelowball (USA) - Posts: 400 - 27/09/2021 18:34:47    2383224

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Replying To thelowball:  "U and ur boy Bonner extremely well rested,another six months will see u boys out for good. Guess when your tone deaf u don't know when to leave! Another Ulster fiasco should see u boys silenced for good. Do u honestly think u can get near Tyrone, never mind the div 3 and 4 teams. That are around"
You predicted last year would be bonners last, you were badly wrong on that one lad. Lol. It's hard to keep a good man down. Stop acting like a wee schoolboy or maybe you are one. Bonner's announcing his backroom team this week. With bonner anything popular???

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2401 - 28/09/2021 10:17:32    2383263

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I don't really understand the school of though that Ryan McHugh's position on the team is in danger. He is too good and clever a footballer to be thinking of benching. The man was a YPOTY and an All Star. It's up to management to get the best out of players and getting them into positions of the field where their influence is not being negated."
He was years ago, but he hasn't been good enough in his current role for a good few years now. The other big teams have him sussed out, he is no longer effective playing at wing-back, the other top sides just foul him out the field to prevent his attacking plays and he is unable to defensively deal with the powerful runners from the opposition.

If he must play, he should play at wing forward or center half forward, perhaps he could draw easy frees there and he could be a handful there.

Donegal need a proper half back line again.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1112 - 28/09/2021 16:50:14    2383397

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Replying To gunman:  "It is hard to take these critics of McHugh seriously.It would appear that there are other agendas or grievances at play here clouding their judgement."
Maybe some people do, but I honestly have no personal or club agenda against Ryan McHugh. He is unsuitable for wing back, and management persist with giving him a automatic starting sport, despite him being unable to cut it in that position for a few seasons now. If he is played at wing or center forward, he could possibly be super effective again.

I always look at Donegal team in an unbiased manner, and if a player is unfit or no longer performing at the highest level, its only fair that others in the squad are given there chance. The senior players talk about the importance of squad depth, but that is meaningless if management are taking the wrong players off or if some players are deemed to important to replace even if they are injured or not fully fit.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1112 - 28/09/2021 17:13:14    2383403

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Replying To thelowball:  "See how Kerry move on the management front. Keane shown the door after being o so close, putting Jack o Connor in the driving seat who has the Celtic crosses to show. Why could McGuinness not have been installed, pedigree no problem! Then again as posters have pointed out who could come up with management plan in 2 days? The bungling county board who can't see past their noses,messing up the 2020 final which should have been completed already headed down the same path with 2021 champ. McGrath, Bonner the lot have to be sent up the river."
Interesting question, 'Why could McGuinness not have been installed'?
Imagine the criticism the county board would have received for installing a man who didn't want the position.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 130 - 28/09/2021 17:54:35    2383411

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Replying To Commodore:  "Maybe some people do, but I honestly have no personal or club agenda against Ryan McHugh. He is unsuitable for wing back, and management persist with giving him a automatic starting sport, despite him being unable to cut it in that position for a few seasons now. If he is played at wing or center forward, he could possibly be super effective again.

I always look at Donegal team in an unbiased manner, and if a player is unfit or no longer performing at the highest level, its only fair that others in the squad are given there chance. The senior players talk about the importance of squad depth, but that is meaningless if management are taking the wrong players off or if some players are deemed to important to replace even if they are injured or not fully fit."
Naturally teams will identify McHugh as our most influential player and give him special attention.It is interesting that the days when he is well marked we usually lose.Without him playing well we will struggle against good teams.I agree with you on one thing and that is he should me moved around different positions keeping the opposition guessing.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 28/09/2021 19:27:58    2383428

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I would say that the only reason the clubs didn't put candidates forward was that they were too afraid to be seen to oppose 'Nice guy, great servant' Declan. If declan had an ounce of awarenesss, he shouldn't have put his name in the hat and I would bet my bottom dollar we would have seen candidates.
Re McHugh, I'm sure everyone remembers the older brother's huge drop in form after the tackle vs Monaghan.
It came out during an 'Off The Ball' special with Rory Gallagher and himself that he was not showing up or doing any training and still being given gametime under Gallagher ahead of others. We never know what's behind someone's lack of form or effectiveness but Ryan McHugh does not have the skill set or stature to be in the defensive half of the field. Eoin McHugh should stick to club. Paddy McBrearty now has been found out against a Div 3 team. Thompson had a nightmare year of form.
This notion that we're all Ireland contenders because we weren't far off Tyrone is the biggest laugh of the year. All Jim's work and the experienced personnel have been wasted by Rory and Declan. We are now in the doldrums again.
I have no problem criticizing players or management when it's warranted. There's a ruthlessness and honesty missing in our clubs and county board which is a culture of 'we'd rather lose than lose face' that will torpedo any glimmer of the county's success until it's changed.

StockholmGael (Donegal) - Posts: 112 - 29/09/2021 08:23:23    2383451

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Replying To gunman:  "Naturally teams will identify McHugh as our most influential player and give him special attention.It is interesting that the days when he is well marked we usually lose.Without him playing well we will struggle against good teams.I agree with you on one thing and that is he should me moved around different positions keeping the opposition guessing."
I no longer see him as our most influential player, I think Michael Langan is now probably the best individual player on the Donegal panel, he is the player opposition teams tried to limit most in 2021, probably followed by McBrearty and Murphy.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1112 - 29/09/2021 10:19:12    2383464

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Replying To StockholmGael:  "I would say that the only reason the clubs didn't put candidates forward was that they were too afraid to be seen to oppose 'Nice guy, great servant' Declan. If declan had an ounce of awarenesss, he shouldn't have put his name in the hat and I would bet my bottom dollar we would have seen candidates.
Re McHugh, I'm sure everyone remembers the older brother's huge drop in form after the tackle vs Monaghan.
It came out during an 'Off The Ball' special with Rory Gallagher and himself that he was not showing up or doing any training and still being given gametime under Gallagher ahead of others. We never know what's behind someone's lack of form or effectiveness but Ryan McHugh does not have the skill set or stature to be in the defensive half of the field. Eoin McHugh should stick to club. Paddy McBrearty now has been found out against a Div 3 team. Thompson had a nightmare year of form.
This notion that we're all Ireland contenders because we weren't far off Tyrone is the biggest laugh of the year. All Jim's work and the experienced personnel have been wasted by Rory and Declan. We are now in the doldrums again.
I have no problem criticizing players or management when it's warranted. There's a ruthlessness and honesty missing in our clubs and county board which is a culture of 'we'd rather lose than lose face' that will torpedo any glimmer of the county's success until it's changed."
Ryan Mc Hugh has no skill set to play in defence , some statement even for somebody that's only on to criticise . And paddy Mc brearty been found out by a third division team. One poor game and he's been found out, you go to any club game in Donegal and mc brearty is still the most important player you'll see.. you tell me who s better than those too to take over there place. Wouldn't mind to have seen you playing in your day.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2401 - 29/09/2021 10:23:23    2383465

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Replying To themaddog:  "Interesting question, 'Why could McGuinness not have been installed'?
Imagine the criticism the county board would have received for installing a man who didn't want the position."
U another Rory job.Trying to understand ur stupid post. Do u know if McGuinness was asked or contacted, if u have that info let us know! If your trying to be funny, that's ok because there are enough dummies good for a laugh in the Donegal set up . What's ur no1 sport there in Wicklow, has to be something akin to ping pong. lol

thelowball (USA) - Posts: 400 - 29/09/2021 11:37:48    2383488

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Ryan Mc Hugh has no skill set to play in defence , some statement even for somebody that's only on to criticise . And paddy Mc brearty been found out by a third division team. One poor game and he's been found out, you go to any club game in Donegal and mc brearty is still the most important player you'll see.. you tell me who s better than those too to take over there place. Wouldn't mind to have seen you playing in your day."
I suspect that the same troll running a few profiles who you are constantly in argument with, I disagree with most points made by them, but I suspect he agrees with my long-term posts on Ryan McHugh not being suited to wing back or the half back line. In Ryan's defense, he still has a lot to offer Donegal and should be playing in a more advanced attacking role.

Paddy McBrearty is top drawer, yes he is predictable on his left peg, but his power and pace are still exceptional. Coaches definitely need to be working with him on how to play without the left leg (Right foot, direct running and fisting points). If the Division 3 comment is aimed at Derry/Chrissy McKaigue, then I think the poster isn't well versed on the fact that McKaigue is one of the best man markers in the game and McBrearty still got away from him at the end.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1112 - 29/09/2021 13:23:33    2383512

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Replying To thelowball:  "U another Rory job.Trying to understand ur stupid post. Do u know if McGuinness was asked or contacted, if u have that info let us know! If your trying to be funny, that's ok because there are enough dummies good for a laugh in the Donegal set up . What's ur no1 sport there in Wicklow, has to be something akin to ping pong. lol"
Speaking about dummies your hard to beat. A poster with 3 or 4 accounts that uses them all to get at bonner and the Donegal management. Sad when you think of it , going by most of the posts knows very little about football but wants a cowardly shot at bonner. If he met him on the street he'd run a mile. That's how keyboard warriors operate.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2401 - 29/09/2021 13:53:50    2383520

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Replying To thelowball:  "U another Rory job.Trying to understand ur stupid post. Do u know if McGuinness was asked or contacted, if u have that info let us know! If your trying to be funny, that's ok because there are enough dummies good for a laugh in the Donegal set up . What's ur no1 sport there in Wicklow, has to be something akin to ping pong. lol"
No sensible person would gave a thumbs up to that post. Proves your liking your own post. Lol

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2401 - 29/09/2021 14:13:25    2383525

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Replying To Commodore:  "I suspect that the same troll running a few profiles who you are constantly in argument with, I disagree with most points made by them, but I suspect he agrees with my long-term posts on Ryan McHugh not being suited to wing back or the half back line. In Ryan's defense, he still has a lot to offer Donegal and should be playing in a more advanced attacking role.

Paddy McBrearty is top drawer, yes he is predictable on his left peg, but his power and pace are still exceptional. Coaches definitely need to be working with him on how to play without the left leg (Right foot, direct running and fisting points). If the Division 3 comment is aimed at Derry/Chrissy McKaigue, then I think the poster isn't well versed on the fact that McKaigue is one of the best man markers in the game and McBrearty still got away from him at the end."
I agree that there is a reasoned debate to be had as to where Ryan should be played to get the best out of him and that is fair enough.What I don't understand is that if he is anyway below his brilliant best he always is the one that gets criticised the most by some posters.In contrast if say Murphy or McGee didn't have great game it would be"ah well they don't owe us anything" type of attitude.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 29/09/2021 16:05:45    2383553

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Speaking about dummies your hard to beat. A poster with 3 or 4 accounts that uses them all to get at bonner and the Donegal management. Sad when you think of it , going by most of the posts knows very little about football but wants a cowardly shot at bonner. If he met him on the street he'd run a mile. That's how keyboard warriors operate."
Who's going to run a mile, ur boy Bonner has run that mile already and should have kept goin. Now ur really switching away from the farce that Bonner as a manager is and turning to the fight game! What's ur speciality the cage , as like McGregor or sumu wrestling!U sound more like the latter to me lol

thelowball (USA) - Posts: 400 - 29/09/2021 16:51:56    2383563

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Replying To gunman:  "I agree that there is a reasoned debate to be had as to where Ryan should be played to get the best out of him and that is fair enough.What I don't understand is that if he is anyway below his brilliant best he always is the one that gets criticised the most by some posters.In contrast if say Murphy or McGee didn't have great game it would be"ah well they don't owe us anything" type of attitude."
That's a fair point, as both Michael Murphy, Neil McGee and others have both had many mixed performances in recent years too.

I don't set out to make hurtful or cruel comments about any Donegal player, as I said before, any man that gets up at 5am or 6am to do S&C training, then goes to work/College and afterwards drives around the County for 2-3 hour intensive trainings session for most of the year with very little financial support for his County has my full respect. Ryan McHugh has been doing that for 8 years now, and I don't mean to be disrespectful towards him or his efforts or sacrifices.

Ryan in his current role is too predictable at this stage, you look back over Championship the past 4 years, and I would say his last major performance was when we lost to Tyrone in Ballybofey in Super 8's, they played him at center half forward that night and he was fantastic. Since then in those high profile crunch games, Mayo 2019, Cavan 2020, Derry or Tyrone 2021, he simply hasn't been able to make an impact and maybe its because Bonner switched him to wing back.

This is constructive criticism, which is more aimed at Donegal Management team and their lack of tactical savy.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1112 - 29/09/2021 17:20:32    2383570

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