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Is Dublin dominance good for football?

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It's not dublin problem, however the reality is that this level dominance is not good for football. Other county players will loss interest if they they think they haven't a chance to win an AI medal.

downtothecore (Down) - 28/08/2017 08:01:41    2039060

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Replying To downtothecore:  "It's not dublin problem, however the reality is that this level dominance is not good for football. Other county players will loss interest if they they think they haven't a chance to win an AI medal."
Take Dublin out of it and Mayo would dominate. IMO both teams are a good stretch ahead of the peloton. You could say the same about the Kerry team of the 80s or Killkenny of the past two decades. Eventually they will fall but I think it helps to raise the bar for all teams. They've cracked the blanket system so it may encourage teams to play less defensively.

Joxer (Dublin) - 28/08/2017 08:46:44    2039077

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It's better than any other county dominating because of the profile the Dubs have and the amount of attention they bring to the GAA.

Other county's need to up their game and put it up to Dublin Mayo,Kerry and Donegal have all been able to compete with them during they're great ruin this decade so it's no impossible by any means to compete with them.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - 28/08/2017 08:51:50    2039078

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You could have made the same case for Kerry a few years ago. The gap is massive but in truth is has been massive for a long time. Kerry, Dublin and Tyrone have won 14 of the last 20 All Ireland with different periods of dominance. Dublins team is young and they have a nice conveyor belt of talent coming through or you should imagine they will dominate for at least the next 5-6 years. Kerry on the other had are going for their 4th minor All Ireland and should a few of them gel into the panel with Geaney, O' Donoghue, Murphy, Moran and Barry they will be force again.

theblackcard (Mayo) - 28/08/2017 09:22:23    2039096

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Dominance is never good regardless of who does it but this Dublin dominance is a bigger worry than others as Dublin have the potential and resources to sustain it long term.
We used to laugh at Dublin not using their population advantage to bring home success but now they are using it and its a frightening prospect.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - 28/08/2017 09:33:15    2039101

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This weekend showed there's a top two not 4. Kerry and a Tyrone are a level above the rest but a level below the top 2.
Don't think the super 8s are going to help the cause either

Superglue (Kerry) - 28/08/2017 09:42:09    2039109

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How many more threads do we need asking the same thing in different ways?

Pericles (Mayo) - 28/08/2017 09:44:46    2039111

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Having young defenders want to be the next Fitzsimmons or McCaffrey and young forwards wanting to be the next Mannion or Con is excellent for the game. And hopefully all aspiring managers will want their teams to play to this Dublin template rather than what has swept the country over the past 10 years. All of that seems very positive to me.

Soma (UK) - 28/08/2017 10:32:40    2039132

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Replying To RoyalBadger:  "Dominance is never good regardless of who does it but this Dublin dominance is a bigger worry than others as Dublin have the potential and resources to sustain it long term.
We used to laugh at Dublin not using their population advantage to bring home success but now they are using it and its a frightening prospect."
Hard to believe that Dublin only won one senior All-Ireland between 1983 and 2011, a period of 28 years.I wouldn't be surprised if Dublin win 6 or 7 of the next 10 All-Irelands.The dominance is here to stay.With the population, financial and other resources available to Dublin, no other county including mighty Kerry can compete with them.That's the reality of it.

endgame (Roscommon) - 28/08/2017 10:45:21    2039143

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Well Kilkenny dominated hurling for a long time didn't they?

And now we've Waterford & Galway in an All Ireland hurling final!!!

Same thing happens at Club level too.

Everything goes through phases.

Moyle (Tipperary) - 28/08/2017 11:10:32    2039161

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It's not bad for football because Dublin have raised the standard of football. Up to the rest to see how they're doing that and try to get to that level.

It could be bad for football because the GAA want to put their eggs in the Super 8 basket. They'll want a competitive to bring in crowds, TV revenue, ad revenue. So they might end up giving more resources to the Super 8 level and widen the big existing gap between Division 1 and Division 4.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - 28/08/2017 11:12:03    2039162

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Replying To endgame:  "Hard to believe that Dublin only won one senior All-Ireland between 1983 and 2011, a period of 28 years.I wouldn't be surprised if Dublin win 6 or 7 of the next 10 All-Irelands.The dominance is here to stay.With the population, financial and other resources available to Dublin, no other county including mighty Kerry can compete with them.That's the reality of it."
Yeah because it's all down to population. It's population that got Kilkenny and Kerry all their All Ireland's right?

GaaGaa78 (UK) - 28/08/2017 11:16:42    2039168

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Replying To endgame:  "Hard to believe that Dublin only won one senior All-Ireland between 1983 and 2011, a period of 28 years.I wouldn't be surprised if Dublin win 6 or 7 of the next 10 All-Irelands.The dominance is here to stay.With the population, financial and other resources available to Dublin, no other county including mighty Kerry can compete with them.That's the reality of it."
By the way, during 1983 and 2011 when Dublin only won 1 All Ireland we still had the largest population in the country. But it's only an issue now because we're winning!

GaaGaa78 (UK) - 28/08/2017 11:29:04    2039182

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Replying To Joxer:  "Take Dublin out of it and Mayo would dominate. IMO both teams are a good stretch ahead of the peloton. You could say the same about the Kerry team of the 80s or Killkenny of the past two decades. Eventually they will fall but I think it helps to raise the bar for all teams. They've cracked the blanket system so it may encourage teams to play less defensively."
dont think kerry miles of it really just got their tactics badly wrong the last day

alano12 (Dublin) - 28/08/2017 11:34:12    2039190

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Dominance in an amateur sport is a race to the bottom. Kildare and any other county in the Leinster province had no chance of beating Dublin either in the past 5 years or probably not for the next 2 or 3 years. You will get die hard supporters going to the games every year but the number is dropping year on year. We know the outcome before the games and its generally over first 10 minutes. It's not Dublin's fault but it is killing attendances because human nature being what it is people will follow and support success and will shy away when team has no chance of winning.

Kildare30 (Kildare) - 28/08/2017 11:41:08    2039197

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Replying To GaaGaa78:  "Yeah because it's all down to population. It's population that got Kilkenny and Kerry all their All Ireland's right?"
Not all down to population but it's clearly an important factor.Kilkenny have an exceptional hurling tradition but it's not a small county and it's population is around 100 thousand.Kerry's population is around 150 thousand.Offaly won senior football and hurling All-Irelands in the 1980s.Offaly is a small county and I doubt they'll win a hurling or football All-Ireland again never mind winning both in the same decade.

endgame (Roscommon) - 28/08/2017 11:45:42    2039200

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If Dublin have helped to stop teams playing the blanket defence and shown how it has it's limitations then it's good for football.
Perhaps teams will look to play more attractive systems that will be more appealing to supporters of Dublin and others who abandon this style for the better.

catch22 (USA) - 28/08/2017 12:25:05    2039238

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No it's not good for football. Whereas a strong traditional team like Kerry will go through Golden Generations like the Micko teams and the Noughties teams, they will also have extended periods of falling back into the pack like the early 90's and this decade. The resources at Dublin's disposal, in a modern sports science and team preparation era, may will continue to provide them with teams that other counties would consider Golden Generations. If they keep having these standards of teams, it will be a massive shock if they don't win at least 6 AI titles per decade, including this decade.

eoghan6688 (Galway) - 28/08/2017 13:12:42    2039280

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Replying To endgame:  "Not all down to population but it's clearly an important factor.Kilkenny have an exceptional hurling tradition but it's not a small county and it's population is around 100 thousand.Kerry's population is around 150 thousand.Offaly won senior football and hurling All-Irelands in the 1980s.Offaly is a small county and I doubt they'll win a hurling or football All-Ireland again never mind winning both in the same decade."
The population thing. Repeating ourselves but the only population that matters is those Males (born in Dublin typically) who actually play Gaelic football at an inter country level. This omits a huge % of the massive Dublin poplulation often quoted.

Now success breeds success. So hopefully more kids will choose GAA over soccer, rugby , athletics and of course our biggest nemesis - the play station.

poguemahone (Dublin) - 28/08/2017 13:27:59    2039302

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Was Man uniteds dominance good for English football ?

Kerrys for gaelic football 78-81

Kilkenny in hurling

They go in cycles. This Dublin team wont be winning forever.

waynoI (Dublin) - 28/08/2017 13:29:41    2039305

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