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Replying To Inaroundehouse: "So who marks Brogan when he comes on???
Because he destroys Mayo every time. Nobody fit to handle him." He destroyed Cafferkey in the 2013 final. Not sure he destroyed us in subsequent game. If Gavin thinks he'll destroy our current defence he should start him.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 15/09/2017 10:41:30
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Lads just a sidenote on the match. While I have great respect for Jim Gavin and what he has done I do find some of the stuff he comes out with pure muck. There was his weird interview post Connolly suspension when he kept mentioning the word Republic over and over and then the rubbish last week going into depth about why he never holds or poses for photos with Sam Maguire. This was followed by the usual guff of people saying that sums up what Jim is all about, nothing is about him. I just laugh at the people who buy into this mince. And since his interview people have been posting tonnes of photos with Jim posing holding Sam, can't beat the banter. Anyway I haven't been taking part in the pre match analysis on here as last year was nothing short of childish.
If Mayo get the match ups right they can do it. Can the likes of O Callaghan and Scully cope with the likes of Boyle giving them abuse? Can we get AOS into the game unlike other years against the Dubs. So many ifs and buts. But of course would I be surprised if Dublin won? No. The 2 best teams are in the final no doubt so enjoy it everyone." Another question
Is Boyles achilles up to to coping with young Con
Its well known that's why he keeps getting replaced during the game
Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 15/09/2017 10:49:54
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Well the big game anticipation is really beginning to take hold at last. Just back at the desk from walking down the street for a coffee and everyone is talking about the game. Every business and car has the green and red decked out. We have been here so many times before and the hope is that this time will be different. I think everyone is aware of the massive challenge ahead in facing a great Dublin team but also a quiet confidence in our lads.
I spent some time yesterday watching some youtube clips....Galway 1998, Armagh 2002, Tyrone 2003, Wexford 1996 etc.....all days when teams won their first or first in a long time All Ireland's. The outpouring of emotion would put the hairs on your neck standing........hoping we can experience that on Sunday...
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 15/09/2017 10:56:53
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Replying To Scarabin: "Another question
Is Boyles achilles up to to coping with young Con
Its well known that's why he keeps getting replaced during the game" Is young Con up to coping with the wily warrior Boyler?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 15/09/2017 11:25:35
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Replying To Inaroundehouse: "There not a snowballs chance in hell of Mayo winning this one! Dubs by 5 plus and and gambling man on here get on the handicap.
It's buying money" I'd tend to agree but I'd say by at least 2-3. Despite the media talk, Dublin are one of the great teams at winning tight games (albeit they don't play many). There is no team in living memory who gets through tight games like Dublin so if it does happen to be close Dublin will still win it. I haven't been more sure of anything since Mcgregor got taught a lesson!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 15/09/2017 11:35:32
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Is young Con up to coping with the wily warrior Boyler?" Most certainly yes. The young warrior will prevail.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 15/09/2017 11:41:16
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Replying To GreenandRed: "He destroyed Cafferkey in the 2013 final. Not sure he destroyed us in subsequent game. If Gavin thinks he'll destroy our current defence he should start him." He won't start Brogan. Doesn't need to. But he will do damage if he comes on.
His movement alone off the ball wrecks Mayo every time.
They can't cope with it.
Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 15/09/2017 12:01:27
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Replying To Scarabin: "Another question
Is Boyles achilles up to to coping with young Con
Its well known that's why he keeps getting replaced during the game" Maybe nobody can cope with Con, as for the injury, he'll be fine.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 15/09/2017 12:01:43
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Replying To TheUsername: "I know the point you are making mate, but do you really think Dublin have any questions to answer or anything to prove? I mean Dublin have won 4 of the last six all Ireland's going for a fifth on Sunday, they have also won 4 NFL titles and beat the all time unbeaten record in league and championship, they are unbeaten in the championship in almost three years. How anyone can say Dublin haven't been tested or proven is beyond me. Surely the emphasis in on Mayo to prove that they are a top team who can win an all Ireland, as good a team as they are, they haven't achieved an all Ireland or even a national title in the life cycle of this team. There is really no comparison in proof or questions that need to be answered.
Dont get me wrong, i think Mayo have a wonderful chance on Sunday, probably their best since 2012. I agree with you a lot of the Kavanagh and O Se stuff, is borderline cringey or reverse yerra. But i dont really see how Mayo are battle hardened or have been tested. I think they have struggled in a lot of games, Derry, Cork, Roscommon, Clare and of course beaten by Galway, they have conceeded an awful lot of socres in those games.
Even in the semi final they failed to capatialise on an at sea Kerry defense the first day and coughed up scores of 2:14 and 0:17 against, if you do that against Dublin there is no Sam heading West. So have Mayo really been tested? They labored against lower Div teams, are Roscommon better then Mongahan? Kerry better then Tyrone, alot of the Kerry lads have said this is their weakest team in a generation? Jury out on all of the above.
Mayo could well win Sam on Sunday, but for me they are going into the game with it all to prove, Dublin are in bonus territory with over 50 Celtic crosses in the team and panel, that wont make them less focused or humble, but the Dublin way is to respect everyone fear no one. They wont hold the fear or pressure of coming up short, great team status has already been established and this decade will always be Dublins.
So when people talk about being tested or having to prove, my god but do Mayo have all the questions that need to be answered. Best of Luck to them and lets hope for a brilliant game and to all our western cousins making the trip." I appreciate this Mayo team will heve to probably giver their best ever performance to beat Dublin bit to answer your questions
Are Roscommon better than Monaghan - Yes more natural footballers Monaghan have McManus but Ros have several talented forwards
Are Kerry better than Tyrone - Yes Tyrone have 3 real quality players in Colm Cavanagh, Perter Harte and Mattie Donnelly - Kerry have 6-7 such players
As for lower league opposition in earlier rounds of the championship Dublin did not play a Div 1 team in Leinster - Kildare will be next year but were beaten by Galway who will also be Div 1
Looking at the paths to the Final I believe Mayo have played better opposition mind you they just about got over the line in a few while Dublin were very impressive dismissing weaker opposition so I don't think it is possible to make a comparision as such
belmay (Mayo) - Posts: 172 - 15/09/2017 12:40:47
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appreciate this Mayo team will heve to probably giver their best ever performance to beat Dublin bit to answer your questions
Are Roscommon better than Monaghan - Yes more natural footballers Monaghan have McManus but Ros have several talented forwards
belmay (Mayo) - Posts:141 - 15/09/2017 12:40:47
Don't actually disagree with the general theme of your post but disagree with the part highlighted above.
At their best Roscommon are on a par with Monaghan, maybe.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 15/09/2017 12:49:10
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Replying To MesAmis: " appreciate this Mayo team will heve to probably giver their best ever performance to beat Dublin bit to answer your questions
Are Roscommon better than Monaghan - Yes more natural footballers Monaghan have McManus but Ros have several talented forwards
belmay (Mayo) - Posts:141 - 15/09/2017 12:40:47
Don't actually disagree with the general theme of your post but disagree with the part highlighted above.
At their best Roscommon are on a par with Monaghan, maybe." Roscommon have good forwards
But they are always getting isolated because their midfield is non existent
and their half backs are awful
Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 15/09/2017 13:14:21
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Replying To belmay: "I appreciate this Mayo team will heve to probably giver their best ever performance to beat Dublin bit to answer your questions
Are Roscommon better than Monaghan - Yes more natural footballers Monaghan have McManus but Ros have several talented forwards
Are Kerry better than Tyrone - Yes Tyrone have 3 real quality players in Colm Cavanagh, Perter Harte and Mattie Donnelly - Kerry have 6-7 such players
As for lower league opposition in earlier rounds of the championship Dublin did not play a Div 1 team in Leinster - Kildare will be next year but were beaten by Galway who will also be Div 1
Looking at the paths to the Final I believe Mayo have played better opposition mind you they just about got over the line in a few while Dublin were very impressive dismissing weaker opposition so I don't think it is possible to make a comparision as such" yes but Mayo have been poor in some games , games that potential Champions would be expected to win easily. Dublin would have comfortably beaten any of the teams Mayo struggled against (including Galway who beat Mayo). Maybe Kerry not so much because of the ol Dub-Kerry rivalry thing. Dublin have not played poorly against anyone, a little below par v Carlow perhaps. In any case ,I don't think it matters on Sunday. Fact is both teams are there and its now only about the one game. Really expecy both teams just to go at it full throttle without a thought of what has gone before.
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 15/09/2017 17:00:50
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If Mayo play with the fire in their belly like they did against Kerry they have a big chance!! Hit them, and hit them hard and may they best team win!!
Tyronecelt (Tyrone) - Posts: 31 - 15/09/2017 18:53:04
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Are Kerry better than Tyrone - Yes Tyrone have 3 real quality players in Colm Cavanagh, Perter Harte and Mattie Donnelly - Kerry have 6-7 such players As for lower league opposition in earlier rounds of the championship Dublin did not play a Div 1 team in Leinster - Kildare will be next year but were beaten by Galway who will also be Div 1
Looking at the paths to the Final I believe Mayo have played better opposition mind you they just about got over the line in a few while Dublin were very impressive dismissing weaker opposition so I don't think it is possible to make a comparision as such
belmay (Mayo) - Posts:141 - 15/09/2017 12:40:47 2
Any team that makes a tactical cock-up against Dublin will get tanked, It's not a case of Tyrone only having 3 quality players (Ridiculous claim, think about Tiernan McCann, Sludden, Bradley, McCurry etc!!), it was about a team altering their tactics to face Dublin and it not working, and they failed to see this quickly enough and suffered dearly for it.
What it really comes down to who got tested better en-route to the final, Mayo arguably got tested more. But it should be noted that Mayo were not playing well in earlier stages of Championship, it wasn't until the put Roscommon away that things finally clicked for them.
GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 15/09/2017 20:17:08
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A lot of pundits on the wireless going with Mayo, there's a wiff in the air.....
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 15/09/2017 20:24:34
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A lot of pundits on the wireless going with Mayo, there's a wiff in the air.....
realdub (Dublin) - Posts:6284 - 15/09/2017 20:24:34
Whoever Martin Carney backs, i'll go the other way. What that man doesn't know about Gaelic Football would take a lifetime to learn.
GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 15/09/2017 20:46:13
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Replying To GaryMc82: "A lot of pundits on the wireless going with Mayo, there's a wiff in the air.....
realdub (Dublin) - Posts:6284 - 15/09/2017 20:24:34
Whoever Martin Carney backs, i'll go the other way. What that man doesn't know about Gaelic Football would take a lifetime to learn." His heart is in Mayo but he's going for Dublin :D
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 15/09/2017 21:16:58
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Replying To GaryMc82: "A lot of pundits on the wireless going with Mayo, there's a wiff in the air.....
realdub (Dublin) - Posts:6284 - 15/09/2017 20:24:34
Whoever Martin Carney backs, i'll go the other way. What that man doesn't know about Gaelic Football would take a lifetime to learn." Mayo unchanged for Sunday.
Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 15/09/2017 21:30:57
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Replying To Inaroundehouse: "He won't start Brogan. Doesn't need to. But he will do damage if he comes on.
His movement alone off the ball wrecks Mayo every time.
They can't cope with it." Brogan didint do much last year, thats why he was dropped for the replay..
tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 600 - 15/09/2017 21:33:36
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Couldn't care less what pundits say. I believe Dubs will beat Mayo by at least 5 points.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 15/09/2017 21:40:42
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