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Why was Patrick Horgan sent off?

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Strange one

890202 (Wexford) - 13/08/2017 22:12:56    2032959

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Replying To 890202:  "Strange one"
No idea and I watched the incident again there on the Sunday Game.

endgame (Roscommon) - 13/08/2017 22:37:23    2032977

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Sub level officiating by a linesman, Kingston should have walked.

Bon (Kildare) - 13/08/2017 23:02:02    2032989

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Sunday Game said he swung back at C Gleeson.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 13/08/2017 23:06:03    2032991

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Replying To 890202:  "Strange one"
Wondered this myself
Was it mistaken identity for no12(I think) who dug into conor Gleason ribs with the hurl?

Frederick (Louth) - 13/08/2017 23:23:24    2032999

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He digged the Waterford lad in the stomach when he was on the ground. And then he threw himself to the ground like he was shot when gleeson retaliated. Obviously was looking for a reaction which is really sly when the game was over. A shame the Waterford player fell for it.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - 13/08/2017 23:47:28    2033013

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Think myself it was mistaken identity with Shane Kingston

galwaydublin (Galway) - 14/08/2017 05:15:19    2033038

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Replying To 890202:  "Strange one"
Because he punched Gleeson in the back, was clearly seen during the replay of the game but for some reason the same angle wasn't used when it was being analysed on The Sunday Game.

GaaGaa78 (UK) - 14/08/2017 08:56:24    2033053

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Horgan started the whole thing initially. When Gleeson and him tangled on the ground Horgan gave Gleeson a little rabbit punch with left his fist or else pinched him. Handbags stuff but he deserved the whack he got off Gleeson. Silly stuff. Not deserving of a red..yellow for both. The rules are too strict around striking.

bloodyban (Limerick) - 14/08/2017 09:14:54    2033061

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Sunday Game said he swung back at C Gleeson."
He struck first, he punched Gleeson in the back and then Gleeson swung is hurl at him. I rewound it twice at the time and watched it back.

GaaGaa78 (UK) - 14/08/2017 09:28:48    2033069

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Having watched the incident, whilst both players were on the ground, Horgan's left hand made contact with Gleeson's abdomen - I'm going on the presumption that Horgan must have given Gleeson some sort of dig or pinch for Gleeson to react the way he did, but again that's only presumption on my part, the TV replays are inconclusive. Maybe the linesman saw more.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - 14/08/2017 09:39:59    2033076

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Having watched the incident, whilst both players were on the ground, Horgan's left hand made contact with Gleeson's abdomen - I'm going on the presumption that Horgan must have given Gleeson some sort of dig or pinch for Gleeson to react the way he did, but again that's only presumption on my part, the TV replays are inconclusive. Maybe the linesman saw more."
"maybe the linesman saw more"

Obviously someone saw more.

I mean, Do ya think the Ref would just send the dude off for the sake of it ?

waynoI (Dublin) - 14/08/2017 09:59:51    2033081

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Replying To waynoI:  ""maybe the linesman saw more"

Obviously someone saw more.

I mean, Do ya think the Ref would just send the dude off for the sake of it ?"
Well, GAA refs have been known to send 2 players off on the age-old mantra of "arra, both of 'em were at it"

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - 14/08/2017 10:14:53    2033097

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Well, GAA refs have been known to send 2 players off on the age-old mantra of "arra, both of 'em were at it""
Probably yeah!

But that's cause the referee/linesman sees both of them at it.

My point is, Whether replays show what happened or not, he wasn't just sent off for no reason. Quite clearly a linesman saw a red card offence by Horgan. The ref didn't just dish out a red card for the sake of dishing one out. Something was seen and the officials reacted to that even if we at home didn't see it..

waynoI (Dublin) - 14/08/2017 10:57:19    2033122

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Replying To GaaGaa78:  "He struck first, he punched Gleeson in the back and then Gleeson swung is hurl at him. I rewound it twice at the time and watched it back."
Bad form by Horgan. Feel sorry for Gleeson, he shouldn't have reacted, obviously heat of the moment stuff.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 14/08/2017 13:20:45    2033222

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Replying To GaaGaa78:  "He struck first, he punched Gleeson in the back and then Gleeson swung is hurl at him. I rewound it twice at the time and watched it back."
Correct - was at the game and this happened in front of me.

Horgan should have seen red against Clare also!

Ban (Westmeath) - 14/08/2017 13:48:11    2033238

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Replying To Bon:  "Sub level officiating by a linesman, Kingston should have walked."
Looks like Cork are appealing Horgan's red card and assuming that it will be transferred to Kingston.

Appears that it was mistaken identity after all.

hurling_lad (Cork) - 15/08/2017 16:12:24    2033705

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Bad form by Horgan. Feel sorry for Gleeson, he shouldn't have reacted, obviously heat of the moment stuff."
Conor Gleeson spent the entire match digging and slapping Conor Lehane with the hurley off the ball, on one occasion flooring him with a shoulder into the back. He got everything he deserved.

Midleton (Cork) - 15/08/2017 19:51:03    2033831

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Replying To waynoI:  ""maybe the linesman saw more"

Obviously someone saw more.

I mean, Do ya think the Ref would just send the dude off for the sake of it ?"
Do you thing that John Denton knows what he's doing at all, when he says that he saw nothing wrong wrong Austin Gleeson pulling the helmet off Luke Meade?

Midleton (Cork) - 15/08/2017 19:52:55    2033832

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Replying To Midleton:  "Do you thing that John Denton knows what he's doing at all, when he says that he saw nothing wrong wrong Austin Gleeson pulling the helmet off Luke Meade?"
I mean, of course, James Owens. My apollogies to John Denton!

Midleton (Cork) - 15/08/2017 20:37:55    2033852

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