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Hurling All Stars 2017

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Replying To Mailman98:  "Cork beat a Tipp team in disarray and were hammered out the gate by Waterford. They should have no player anywhere near an all-star. Maher was part of a team beaten twice in this years championship and demolished in the league final. His inclusion is a political joke. Galway would be looking at 30 years without an all ireland if it wasn't for Hanbury and especially Joseph Cooney. The former was close to MOTM in the All-ireland final, the latter was close to MOTM in the Leinster final and brilliant in the first half of the All-Ireland final. Hanbury for Maher, Joseph Cooney for Horgan and Tuohy or DeBurca for Coleman would be a better selection.
Having said all that; will the selection keep me awake tonight? Not for one second because at the end of the day it's all about Liam McCarthy."
Just give the 15 to Galway men altogether while you are at it :)

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2205 - 04/11/2017 04:16:24    2060345

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Farce really Matt O'Hanlon, Diarmud O'Keefe were superb throughout 2017, Lee Chin gave an display power and skill v Kilkenny and Shaun Murphy probably best back throughout the league, the competition that runs for half the year and gets completely forgotten come awards season.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 44 - 04/11/2017 06:21:53    2060349

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Replying To Jedobi:  "Farce really Matt O'Hanlon, Diarmud O'Keefe were superb throughout 2017, Lee Chin gave an display power and skill v Kilkenny and Shaun Murphy probably best back throughout the league, the competition that runs for half the year and gets completely forgotten come awards season."
Yeah they were all really good this year but not all star level. You could name two really strong alternative teams to the all star 15. I think you are looking at the all stars through purple and gold tinted glasses.

O'Hanlon wasn't better than McInerney.

You wouldn't be swapping Chin in for Burke, Barron, Moran, Canning or Walsh.

O'Keefe wasn't better than Maher, Coleman or Mannion.

DeBurca and Fives are better sweepers than Murphy.

Wexford had a good season but they faded as the season went on. Galway and Waterford were comfortable against them, even after DeBurca's red card in Waterford's case.

The Big talking point in my opinion is how Tuohy missed out for Coleman.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2205 - 04/11/2017 14:01:46    2060424

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Replying To wd45:  "Doyle and Clarke are good no doubt but there miles off the pace for an all-star or nomination. Put it this way if either had started the all-Ireland for Galway or Waterford they would be subbed after 10 mins. Different pace. Doyles performance on Callanan had more to do with Callanan not being bothered than Doyle really."
I am watching Tipp hurlers for the past five and a half decades and I never saw any of them that could 'not be bothered' and if they had that attitude even if Tipp were twenty points ahead they would not be wearing the Premier County jersey for long.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1541 - 04/11/2017 15:51:14    2060436

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I am watching Tipp hurlers for the past five and a half decades and I never saw any of them that could 'not be bothered' and if they had that attitude even if Tipp were twenty points ahead they would not be wearing the Premier County jersey for long."
Great post. The other poster managed to belittle Doyle and Callanan in the one post, some going.

Westmeath pushed Tipp all the way that day and that's why this new championship structure will set back Hurling's development. All about the marketing push for the white elephant that will be the 'Super 8s'.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2205 - 04/11/2017 16:14:23    2060445

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "To be fair Cannuck Nash's puckouts were excellent all through the Munster campaign particularly v Tipp......didn't work against Waterford but then always hard to repeat the performance against the same team during the same year as the losing team always learns more.....fair play to O Keeffe but no need for the disparaging comments about Nash who also had a great year.......worth reminding yourself that Waterford ended the year with nothing before you get ahead if yourself"
I have nothing bad to say about Nash, He is a fine keeper and will show that for a long time to come. His puck out strategy did not work in the semi final mainly because Waterford dealt with it. If it was o 20 to f 30 meters they allowed Cork have it. If it was outside that they pressurized and turned them over. O'Keeffe showed again the last two Sundays in club championship why he is number 1. I am not sure where you are going with the won nothing comment. Waterford were with in a puck of the ball of the All -Ireland champions a position that 30 other counties did not enjoy. May be the All-Ireland will elude them again but for a county with the resources available they can be proud of the performances given. Their former stars do not mind giving a helping hand to your county either.
The subject is about the All-Star selections that is always subjective and the only one getting nasty is you.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 238 - 05/11/2017 15:56:56    2060603

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