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I wouldn't disagree with you, the problem is he doesn't have the help around him. Kerry don't have that problem.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 19/07/2017 13:23:35 2019250 Link 0 |
The simple answer to the questioned posed is Kerry are better than Mayo there is way more improvement in Kerry this year and over the next 2/3 years Mayo are limping along I feel this is there last shot at sam. I just can't see mayo beating Dublin, Kerry or Tyrone to win the All-Ireland. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 19/07/2017 13:26:09 2019252 Link 0 |
Kerry are well ahead of Mayo, an example is the forwards, Kerry have match winners in the forwards and on the bench, Mayo don't, we are over relying on Andy Moran and Cillian O'Connor's frees, we saw with Tyrone last Sunday when they hardly gave away any frees in scorable positions, if we get to play Tyrone we won't get easy frees and then what will happen, Mayo will be beaten, if Kerry or Cork tighten up in the backs and avoid giving away scorable frees then Mayo will be in trouble. Are Kerry better than Mayo? Yes, well ahead and deservedly so riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 19/07/2017 13:34:54 2019263 Link 0 |
Respect is earned Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 19/07/2017 13:36:56 2019267 Link 1 |
I don't want to sound flippant or disrespectful to Mayo but 2 reasons.. KK1926 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 19/07/2017 13:43:14 2019272 Link 1 |
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1075 - 19/07/2017 13:44:51 2019275 Link 0 |
Trust me in the Kingdom, that view is not held at all we know Mayo have been the closest to toppling the Juggernaut Galantis (USA) - Posts: 55 - 19/07/2017 14:11:00 2019295 Link 0 |
The answer is quite simply because Kerry have the better players...more importantly they have the better forwards. HuddHastings (Longford) - Posts: 144 - 19/07/2017 14:16:03 2019300 Link 1 |
Probably because Kerry haven't lost a championship game to Mayo for 21 years. Kerry and Dublin are the top two the current All Ireland and league champions and both have strength in depth and player quality especially forwards well ahead of the rest. Mayo to their credit are punching above their weight to be challenging the top two but i believe as group of players they peaked in 2013-14 the prime example of this is their two defeats to Galway a side that Kerry would beat comfortably if they played them 10 times in a row. Having won 3 minor All Irelands in a row and probably a 4th this summer Kerry unlike Mayo are long way from their peak and are only going to get stronger within the next couple of years. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3329 - 19/07/2017 14:22:02 2019301 Link 0 |
Kerry people seem to love Mayo football....well that is what they tell me anyway. Why? Well because they always beat us. I remember reading where Paudi O Se said after the 1996 semi final defeat to Mayo that no way would a Kerry team ever loose to Mayo like that again. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11219 - 19/07/2017 14:26:09 2019306 Link 0 |
Such notions!
DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 19/07/2017 14:33:32 2019312 Link 0 |
Yew, i hear you. I remember pre 2011 if you talked football to a Kerryman as a Dub all you got was patronising and yerra yerra bellyaching. They loved us, loved talking about the 70's, loved telling us about this special relationship we had with Kerry etc, the mutual respect etc etc It was all BS of course, and the second we beat them and suddenly began beating them with regularity, that all changed, changed utterly. They dont love ye, they just laugh at ye, same way they laughed at us for so long, but being the cute hoors they are they wont let you know that. Beat them, and watch that change. I hope ye do, i sincerely hope that if we dont win Sam, ye do. Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 19/07/2017 14:40:55 2019321 Link 1 |
This thread belong on Waterford Whisperers News! The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 705 - 19/07/2017 14:57:22 2019329 Link 0 |
I don't know. COC gets involved in a lot of off the ball stuff. Andy doesn't and he is a bit more of a cult hero. Kinda funny that people are pointing out the missed free yet in an even more pressurised situation in the first game he went out the middle of the field to make sure he was the man who would have what was their very last scoring chance in that game. Took all the responsibility. This is exactly the point I am making about posters on here, ignoring what happened the first day. it's hilarious.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7830 - 19/07/2017 15:15:20 2019333 Link 0 |
They'll also ignore the other nine frees he scored that day. Cilian will never be popular with opposition fans due to some of the nonsense he gets involved in, but questioning his nerve is a pile of dookie. The lad has nailed crucial frees and penalties in most of the big games for the past six years: miss one and all of a sudden you're a choker. It's similar to the accepted nonsense of him contributing nothing from play, outside of all the goals he scores or last minute equalisers he conjures up. The thread title obviously refers to the present fortunes of the two counties, rather than any historical comparison. Kerry's league final win over Dublin and present better form probably influences the rankings in that respect. Mayo need to concentrate on Cork, and only Cork, for the next three days or so. It would also be nice for us not to start the game 15 minutes after the throw-in this time ;) Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/07/2017 15:51:59 2019353 Link 0 |
Because the shear sight of he green and gold jerseys puts the fear of God into Mayo. Simple as...
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 19/07/2017 16:41:39 2019397 Link 0 |
I think mayo have every chance yet again of reaching a final... or is that just my overseas optimism. I have been a seriously committed supporter missing hardly any games and leaving across the shore. But this year tells a different story. I am gutted to say ive not been to a game yet due to family and work commitments. I had been very very hopeful that should we overcome the rebels i would be gracing the doors of the croke park hotel with the sun on my jersey waiting for a quarter final weekend of craic and good footballing displays at HQ. But that is not looking as likely now due to commitments. Can we all get the violins out oletothegaa (Mayo) - Posts: 8 - 19/07/2017 16:53:12 2019411 Link 0 |
Strong suspicion...In other words in your opinion I for one would rather play mayo I don't think Mayo would beat Dublin this year playing Kerry I would always feel some apprehension I never feel that way when we play Mayo I Am always confident we have enough to beat mayo. Mayo have played some of there best football against Dublin and have never done enough to get the job done.
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 19/07/2017 17:18:54 2019435 Link 1 |
For you to talk about Kerry patronising and to post that drivel is hilarious, if you are going to big up League results (which I never have or will) Mayo beat us at Home in the League, so patronising us about the League give over A couple of points We know our football down here and secondly are honest to a fault and the feeling is Mayo are getting better and better as each game they play and we are worried that we'll be caught cold in the QF by them Galantis (USA) - Posts: 55 - 19/07/2017 18:07:08 2019475 Link 0 |
its clear to see over the last couple of years that there is nothing between Kerry and Mayo. If we were to meet them in the semis or quarter finals this year I dont think anyone down here would be over confident. This Kerry team is by no means the finished article and we have lots of question marks over our team especially in our defense and goalkeeper. KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 19/07/2017 19:36:37 2019510 Link 0 |