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Mannion's goal was a closed-fisted punch, a work of beauty
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 13:10:09 2018603 Link 0 |
You're off on your own little trip there. Has nothing to do with anything I said. Might have been relevant if you'd described having teams with 5 very tall players, reduced the net to a hoop with a backboard. But y'know... Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 13:12:18 2018606 Link 0 |
Good one.
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 13:12:49 2018607 Link 0 |
if a player is only allowed to use one hand then it is actually far easier to use a closed fist than an open hand.
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 13:15:12 2018608 Link 0 |
Indeed, maybe some of the lads here see themselves in speedos and factor 50 on the copacabana
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 13:16:09 2018609 Link 0 |
I think the hand slap goal looks ridiculous, the rule should be changed, the ball should be fisted or kicked to the net, the fisted point should be banned too. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2705 - 18/07/2017 13:46:16 2018632 Link 1 |
Only for the people watching, I wouldn't like to head a gaelic football ;)
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 18/07/2017 14:04:33 2018649 Link 0 |
Why not shorten the pitch, go to 11 a side, widen the nets and bring in an offside rule while we're at it lads? Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 18/07/2017 14:14:24 2018658 Link 0 |
Are you serious? So if a player is standing with an open goal after the keeper being taken out of it due to the last handpass across you think a close fist is easier to execute? Absolute nonsense. Far more likely for it to be misdirected using a closed fist, that's why players use their open hand from close range.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7831 - 18/07/2017 14:32:41 2018678 Link 0 |
Well if a player does that then it shouldn't be a goal, it's a free out for fouling the ball i.e. throwing the ball
AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 18/07/2017 14:36:47 2018685 Link 0 |
A trajectory doesn't have momentum, but feel free to rewrite the laws of physics. He's not 'essentially' catching the ball either. He's applying a force to the ball which increases or decreases the velocity of the ball and alters the trajectory goalbound.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 18/07/2017 14:56:57 2018696 Link 0 |
He connected with the ball with the back of his hand though.Would that be outlawed.Technically he didnt actually connect with a closed fist.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 18/07/2017 15:19:35 2018710 Link 0 |
I know it should be, but it's given a blind eye
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 15:28:55 2018716 Link 0 |
Technically he did, it was still his fist, front or back irrelevant
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 15:30:09 2018720 Link 0 |
if he's decreasing the momentum of the object and then applying a force to increase the momentum of the object while changing its trajectory then he is in essence catching and throwing the ball. This doesn't occur in all of the 'handslap' goals but it does in a great many instances.
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 15:45:22 2018734 Link 0 |
That's probably because he's throwing it
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 15:46:30 2018735 Link 0 |
Seriously? It's one of the easiest things to do to put a ball into the goal with your hands.
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 15:47:26 2018736 Link 0 |
So what if it "looks crap"? Are you suggesting that goals should only be allowed if they look pretty and require great skill? So if a high ball drops into the goalmouth and after a mad scramble, it rebounds into the net off somebody's knee or backside, it should be disallowed? There are plenty of crap looking goals scored in football, hurling (and soccer) all the time and I don't see any problem. Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 18/07/2017 16:11:49 2018762 Link 0 |
True, but it's not easy to work your way into a position where all you have to do is 'slap' the ball into the net, especially in these days of massed defences. I appreciate that it may not be viewed as a core skill, but neither is a two yard hand pass, a ten yard kick pass or an uncontested catch, but all are integral parts of our game and to start tweaking rules simply to get rid of bits some people don't like the look of would be a mistake.
AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 18/07/2017 16:43:40 2018789 Link 0 |
Seriously, what are you on about, an open palm or even a flick with the top of the fingers from close range is not a throw.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7831 - 18/07/2017 16:49:50 2018794 Link 1 |