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Replying To Belclare1: "My point is they are not as good as they were in 2013/14, getting beat by a poor Galway team on 2 occasions show that.." ' i believe Mayo have slipped a long way in the last 2 years and are not showing any sign of competing with Dublin and Kerry' That was your statement.. They took Dublin to a replay just last year and the year before, so I think your talking nonsense.. tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 600 - 17/07/2017 18:34:54 2018327 Link
A few movers this week - Galway being the biggest winners and Donegal the biggest loosers over the weekend. Corks honourable performance sees them into the top 10 at the expense of Down 1.Dublin 2.Kerry 3.Tyrone 4.Mayo 5.Kildare 6.Roscommon 7.Galway 8.Monaghan 9.Donegal 10. Cork imonmyway (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 24/07/2017 14:31:19 2022604 Link
Replying To Belclare1: "My point is they are not as good as they were in 2013/14, getting beat by a poor Galway team on 2 occasions show that.." getting beaten by galway early on in the championship is irrelevant, mayo ran the dubs as close as they ever have last year alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2017 14:54:51 2022624 Link
1. DUBLIN (no change) 2. KERRY (no change) 3. TYRONE (no change) 4. MAYO (up 3) 5. KILDARE (up 3) 6. GALWAY (no change) 7. ROSCOMMON (up 4) 8. MONAGHAN (down 3) 9. DONEGAL (down 5) 10. DOWN (up 4) The above are the Hogan stand rankings - in general these seem to be everyones top 10 with the exception of Cork replacing Down in some of our rankings. These will not change drastically between now and the end of September imonmyway (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 27/07/2017 16:59:23 2024564 Link
Replying To imonmyway: "1. DUBLIN (no change) 2. KERRY (no change) 3. TYRONE (no change) 4. MAYO (up 3) 5. KILDARE (up 3) 6. GALWAY (no change) 7. ROSCOMMON (up 4) 8. MONAGHAN (down 3) 9. DONEGAL (down 5) 10. DOWN (up 4) The above are the Hogan stand rankings - in general these seem to be everyones top 10 with the exception of Cork replacing Down in some of our rankings. These will not change drastically between now and the end of September" I wouldn't have too many problems with that top 10, but I do think Mayo are in the most tenuous position. Any of the other teams could lose a game a as a result slip a place, maybe two. Mayo's number 3 slot is almost entirely based on their performance last year. They stumbled through the qualifiers and then, lo and behold, came within a point of lifting Sam. Consequently, no-one is willing to rule them out this year despite the fact that once again, they're stumbling through the qualifiers. A loss the next day should see them slip below Roscommon (Connacht Champions), Galway (who have beaten them every time they've met in the last two years) and possibly even Kildare, depending on how Kildare performs in the rest of the championship). I hope no-one from Mayo takes this as a dig. I happen to think Mayo are a fascinating team this year, who can never be ruled out, but a bit of consistency wouldn't go astray. festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 27/07/2017 17:16:48 2024573 Link
Replying To imonmyway: "1. DUBLIN (no change) 2. KERRY (no change) 3. TYRONE (no change) 4. MAYO (up 3) 5. KILDARE (up 3) 6. GALWAY (no change) 7. ROSCOMMON (up 4) 8. MONAGHAN (down 3) 9. DONEGAL (down 5) 10. DOWN (up 4) The above are the Hogan stand rankings - in general these seem to be everyones top 10 with the exception of Cork replacing Down in some of our rankings. These will not change drastically between now and the end of September" While these rankings mean very little i don't see how kildare could be ranked in the top 5. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 28/07/2017 17:14:40 2025029 Link
Replying To ROS1: "While these rankings mean very little i don't see how kildare could be ranked in the top 5." Can't disagree with that.I would have Roscommon and Galway ahead of Kildare on the basis that Roscommon are Connacht champs and Galway beat us twice this year. lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2987 - 28/07/2017 18:18:27 2025066 Link
Replying To ROS1: "While these rankings mean very little i don't see how kildare could be ranked in the top 5." Would any of the teams below us score 1.17 against the dubs in Croker? Never mind the 9 point defeat :) St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 28/07/2017 18:32:38 2025072 Link
Replying To St.Conleth: "Would any of the teams below us score 1.17 against the dubs in Croker? Never mind the 9 point defeat :)" Lol no. Kildare look to be a improving side but i think the media got a bit carried away with there performance against the dubs. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 28/07/2017 21:03:38 2025119 Link
Replying To St.Conleth: "Would any of the teams below us score 1.17 against the dubs in Croker? Never mind the 9 point defeat :)" That's a good point and I would apply the same question to the teams above you never mind the teams below you on that list.! Perhaps Kildare showed other teams and managers how to rack up scores against Dublin.Or perhaps Kildare are a much better side than they've been getting credit for. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 28/07/2017 21:26:35 2025135 Link
Dublin have a game plan based on the opposition that presents itself. They didn't go defensive V Kildare as they saw that Kildare were going to play ball. They would not play the same game V Monaghan or another defensively structured team. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 28/07/2017 22:19:35 2025148 Link
Replying To St.Conleth: "Would any of the teams below us score 1.17 against the dubs in Croker? Never mind the 9 point defeat :)" Lol no. Kildare look to be a improving side but i think the media got a bit carried away with there performance against the dubs. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 28/07/2017 22:29:39 2025157 Link
The top 4 are fairly set but from 5-10 I think they can all beat each other on any given day. Hard to rank them really. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 29/07/2017 09:36:58 2025243 Link
Replying To realdub: "Dublin have a game plan based on the opposition that presents itself. They didn't go defensive V Kildare as they saw that Kildare were going to play ball. They would not play the same game V Monaghan or another defensively structured team." Jeez realdub , sounds like a mild panic attack :) St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 29/07/2017 14:41:06 2025341 Link
Was baffled by hogan stand rankings when I saw they had Kildare in 5th (besides that thought they were fair) Kildare did absolutely nothing to prove themselves don't understand how losing by 9 points even if it is against Dublin can be viewed as an achievement. Result tonight proved they didn't deserve the spot. monaghan90 (Monaghan) - Posts: 8 - 29/07/2017 21:26:02 2025533 Link
1 dublin 2 kerry 3 tyrone 4 galway 5 mayo 6 monaghan 7 roscommon 8 armagh 9 kildare 10 down tjcentrehalfbak (Galway) - Posts: 28 - 30/07/2017 00:43:11 2025648 Link
Another all action weekend with a few movers on the top 10. Armagh have broken in after their surprise win over Kildare. 1. Dublin 2. Kerry 3. Tyrone 4. Mayo 5. Roscommon 6. Monaghan 7. Armagh 8. Kildare 9. Galway 10. Cork imonmyway (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 31/07/2017 10:29:02 2026483 Link
1. Dublin 2. Tyrone 3. Kerry 4. Mayo 5. Roscommon 6. Armagh 7. Galway 8. Donegal 9. Monaghan 10. Kildare ulster83 (Tyrone) - Posts: 114 - 31/07/2017 11:07:50 2026514 Link
Dublin Kerry Tyrone Mayo (for now, very shaky) Monaghan (also shaky) Roscommon Galway Armagh Kildare Cork Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 31/07/2017 12:06:15 2026568 Link
1. Dublin - Won't be too upset at Kerry's less than inspired performance against Galway. 3 in a row is probable 2. Kerry- Kerry are capable of a lot more, perhaps taking it a bit easy and still winning by 8 points 3. Tyrone- Showing a lot more dynamism going forward, could they beat Dublin? 4. Mayo- Still there and do have proven quality players but are not likely to trouble the top 2 5. Roscommon- Great season, apart from relegation from Division 1. May come to an end next monday 6. Monaghan- Stops and starts, they may be reassessed after playing Dublin but have some serious quality 7. Armagh- Championship is where it's at and they are in the last 8 and improving. Will test Tyrone if they can stick with them 8. Galway- Division 2 Champions, some class forwards, midfield found it tough against Kerry. Defence should improve in Division 1 9. Kildare- Promoted from Division 2, started the championship well and had a real go at Dublin, didn't bring the same attacking game to Armagh. 10. Down- Improved throughout the year, will look for more consistency next year and push for promotion. Always have fantastic shooters. jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 31/07/2017 12:25:58 2026585 Link