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Myth of Dublin club football

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Not as strong as people think. Look at some of the hammerings last night... Ballyboden St Endas 0-13 St Oliver Plunketts 2-10 Whitehall Colmcille 1-7 St Marys Saggart 1-15 Parnells 1-13 Fingal Ravens 0-10 Kilmacud Crokes 10-12 Erins Isle 0-7 St Judes 1-20 Naomh Mearnog 0-6 A number of exceptional clubs but after that the standard appears to be average.

Toney (Meath) - 21/04/2017 14:06:41    1981461

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3 and 6 point wins are some hammerings alright...

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - 21/04/2017 14:09:55    1981462

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They have too many teams in the Senior Championship. Dublin clubs don't do too well in the Leianter Intermediate or Junior Championship. Straight knock in Arpil doesn't give much inspiration for the rest of the year for club players . A b championship not the same.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - 21/04/2017 14:18:28    1981465

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Within the championship there's 32 teams , they fall into following tiers top 8 potential winners next 8 capable of upsets but wont win over all next eight will never win the thing ,can surprise the second tier teams but not the first , last eight if not careful on the end of some hidings , damage limitation order of the day

Damothedub (Dublin) - 21/04/2017 15:01:42    1981482

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I see two hammerings there. What myth exactly are you exploding here? Dublin has maybe 4 teams that have either won the All-Ireland or been to the All-Ireland final in the last few years. There are also maybe another 3/4 teams that would push hard for provincial honours. That's very high standard. The current structure is a bit off with too many senior clubs imo. This means the earlier rounds can be poor. Once it gets to the last 16 though it is one of the best competitions anywhere in terms of entertainment and excitement for me.

MesAmis (Dublin) - 21/04/2017 15:07:06    1981487

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Kilmacud Crokes 10-12 Erins Isle 0-7 St Judes 1-20 Naomh Mearnog 0-6 They are hammerings, the rest are not

arock (Dublin) - 21/04/2017 15:19:47    1981492

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How does one Dublin team, dishing out a hammering to another Dublin team mean club football in Dublin is not strong. Odd.

TheUsername (Dublin) - 21/04/2017 15:47:46    1981502

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Within the championship there's 32 teams , they fall into following tiers top 8 potential winners next 8 capable of upsets but wont win over all next eight will never win the thing ,can surprise the second tier teams but not the first , last eight if not careful on the end of some hidings , damage limitation order of the day"
who are the top 8 ?. Boden, Plunketts, Vincents, Kickhams, Crokes, Castleknock ?, Brigids ?

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - 21/04/2017 17:08:54    1981525

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realdub (Dublin) - 21/04/2017 18:18:28    1981540

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who are the top 8 ?. Boden, Plunketts, Vincents, Kickhams, Crokes, Castleknock ?, Brigids ? LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts:242 - 21/04/2017 17:08:54 You could add Jude's in as potential winners based on the last few years.

MesAmis (Dublin) - 21/04/2017 18:20:45    1981541

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Most folk who follow football would know that club football is strong in Dublin and any of the top 6 clubs could win Leinster and maybe AI.

browncows (Meath) - 21/04/2017 21:45:22    1981577

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Replying To Toney:  "Not as strong as people think. Look at some of the hammerings last night... Ballyboden St Endas 0-13 St Oliver Plunketts 2-10 Whitehall Colmcille 1-7 St Marys Saggart 1-15 Parnells 1-13 Fingal Ravens 0-10 Kilmacud Crokes 10-12 Erins Isle 0-7 St Judes 1-20 Naomh Mearnog 0-6 A number of exceptional clubs but after that the standard appears to be average."
Is it your own myth ref Dublin club football ?

superbluedub (Dublin) - 21/04/2017 22:05:43    1981582

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Dublin club football is strongest in the country. They do seem to have sacrificed their club championship in order to support their county team. Knock out games in April is a joke. How would you motivate yourself as a Ballyboden player now for the rest of the year? A round robin group phase to start would be much better but i guess the county team won't allow that?

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - 22/04/2017 08:59:37    1981606

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As an outsider, I can only be jealous of whatever system Dublin have in place. Any of their top clubs can, and have done, win Leinster and All-Ireland club titles. The conveyor belt of young footballers is relentless. As a club footballer, it must be demoralizing to be out of championship in April, but the system is obviously working as far as the Dubs are concerned. I appreciate that, financially, they operate on a different planet to most counties, but someone somewhere is obviously doing something right with that money. As an envious outsider looking in, I can only say "lads, if it ain't broke, don't fix it "

yelowbelly (Wexford) - 22/04/2017 09:34:34    1981611

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Replying To BlastCalyle:  "Dublin club football is strongest in the country. They do seem to have sacrificed their club championship in order to support their county team. Knock out games in April is a joke. How would you motivate yourself as a Ballyboden player now for the rest of the year? A round robin group phase to start would be much better but i guess the county team won't allow that?"
Which is fine in theory, but then both Mayo and Dublin club championships finished up just before Christmas which in its self is ridiculous. While Con O' Callaghan had a weeks break from the end of his club championship to laying for his county. Dermot Connolly had about 3 weeks, less if you count when he returned to county training. A balance needs to be struck with the spirit of player welfare at heart, you can come up with any format you want put both the club and county teams suffers when players are overloaded. That said i think the Dublin county championship needs a rejig with less games rather then more, in a seeding system.

TheUsername (Dublin) - 22/04/2017 09:36:36    1981612

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Replying To BlastCalyle:  "Dublin club football is strongest in the country. They do seem to have sacrificed their club championship in order to support their county team. Knock out games in April is a joke. How would you motivate yourself as a Ballyboden player now for the rest of the year? A round robin group phase to start would be much better but i guess the county team won't allow that?"
But having knock out games now means that they won't be hanging around forever waiting for games and they can play and enjoy the league for the rest of the year. Club football should be about enjoying playing the game. We finally get round to that idea we might actually have a proper set of fixtures with weekly games in every single county.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - 22/04/2017 11:49:03    1981639

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Replying To yelowbelly:  "As an outsider, I can only be jealous of whatever system Dublin have in place. Any of their top clubs can, and have done, win Leinster and All-Ireland club titles. The conveyor belt of young footballers is relentless. As a club footballer, it must be demoralizing to be out of championship in April, but the system is obviously working as far as the Dubs are concerned. I appreciate that, financially, they operate on a different planet to most counties, but someone somewhere is obviously doing something right with that money. As an envious outsider looking in, I can only say "lads, if it ain't broke, don't fix it ""
Don't get the rubbish spouted that dublin clubs work off huge budgets compared to country clubs. If I drive through rural areas they all have huge grounds with covered stand or terrace, castleblaney in monaghan has a state of the art stand holding 2,500 spectators and an all weather running track around the pitch. In ballinamore in leitrim the club there has an unbelievable set up scoreboard covered areas the works and the town they pull from has a population of less than a thousand I would say. Bryan Fenton club raheny who also had the man of the match in the all ireland under 21 club championship semi final Bryan Howard and long time Dublin stars ciaran Whelan and David Henry play in st annes park a corporation pitch and they are a senior club. The club grounds in Dublin aren't a patch on the resources around the country, they instead put their time into coaching players that's why they have gotten success

hill16no1man (Dublin) - 23/04/2017 20:15:03    1981972

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Don't get the rubbish spouted that dublin clubs work off huge budgets compared to country clubs. If I drive through rural areas they all have huge grounds with covered stand or terrace, castleblaney in monaghan has a state of the art stand holding 2,500 spectators and an all weather running track around the pitch. In ballinamore in leitrim the club there has an unbelievable set up scoreboard covered areas the works and the town they pull from has a population of less than a thousand I would say. Bryan Fenton club raheny who also had the man of the match in the all ireland under 21 club championship semi final Bryan Howard and long time Dublin stars ciaran Whelan and David Henry play in st annes park a corporation pitch and they are a senior club. The club grounds in Dublin aren't a patch on the resources around the country, they instead put their time into coaching players that's why they have gotten success"
But you forgot to add that there are no corporation pitches in Ballinamore so where would they play if the did not build a pitch and a covered scoreboard!

browncows (Meath) - 23/04/2017 20:44:34    1981978

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Don't get the rubbish spouted that dublin clubs work off huge budgets compared to country clubs. If I drive through rural areas they all have huge grounds with covered stand or terrace, castleblaney in monaghan has a state of the art stand holding 2,500 spectators and an all weather running track around the pitch. In ballinamore in leitrim the club there has an unbelievable set up scoreboard covered areas the works and the town they pull from has a population of less than a thousand I would say. Bryan Fenton club raheny who also had the man of the match in the all ireland under 21 club championship semi final Bryan Howard and long time Dublin stars ciaran Whelan and David Henry play in st annes park a corporation pitch and they are a senior club. The club grounds in Dublin aren't a patch on the resources around the country, they instead put their time into coaching players that's why they have gotten success"
Well said Hill....

Fionn (Dublin) - 23/04/2017 20:51:58    1981980

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Don't get the rubbish spouted that dublin clubs work off huge budgets compared to country clubs. If I drive through rural areas they all have huge grounds with covered stand or terrace, castleblaney in monaghan has a state of the art stand holding 2,500 spectators and an all weather running track around the pitch. In ballinamore in leitrim the club there has an unbelievable set up scoreboard covered areas the works and the town they pull from has a population of less than a thousand I would say. Bryan Fenton club raheny who also had the man of the match in the all ireland under 21 club championship semi final Bryan Howard and long time Dublin stars ciaran Whelan and David Henry play in st annes park a corporation pitch and they are a senior club. The club grounds in Dublin aren't a patch on the resources around the country, they instead put their time into coaching players that's why they have gotten success"
Where did that rant come from. Anyway there are plenty of well resourced clubs in Dublin, Parnell's, Brigid's, Vincent's, Na Fianna, Kilmacud. Ballymun are due to resurface their Astro pitch to the tune of €200k. There are also plenty of poorly resourced clubs in other counties. What was your bloody point, anyway. The GAA is pretty damn good at getting funding and at putting together facilities for themselves all across the country. You know what, there's nothing wrong with that. They're pretty happy to put money into facilities in Dublin also. There's also plenty of time and effort spent on coaching outside of Dublin. Not all of it's thrown away on pitches and club houses, which also,by the way, can provide returns on the investment. Rural GAA clubs are also reliant on having their own facilities as there just aren't council/corporation pitches available to them.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - 23/04/2017 21:23:33    1981991

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