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look management got this wrong. meath were outstanding in the first half,but they clearly told the players to play deep 2nd half and defend the lead.but in doing so this invited dublin on to them. taking off a forward who was playing well is some message too. the message should have been at half time. lads you are a better side,keep it going,i am going to change nothing tactically. instead management tried to be too clever and it back fired.
in the minor league meath walloped every team they played and never resorted to the tactics used 2nd half. why do that now? the young lads looked like they didn't know how to play the 2nd half system anyway. these lads are very good footballers,let them play football.had they left things alone meath would have not only won the game,but won it pulling up.
now they are left with a situation were their confidence may be shattered. although win against laois and they are back in this leinster..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/04/2017 19:31:55    1981958

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Replying To RoylerKing:  "Well done to the Dubs yesterday, it was a fine win in the end. I was at the game and our first half performance was very good but a game is never won in the first half unfortunately. After that we were very ordinary. Don't mind RoyalDunne he is forever spouting out nonsense. All our focus is on Laois now."
Fair play

Dose of realism at last.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3732 - 23/04/2017 20:48:53    1981979

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It's pointless reading too much into the Leinster Minor League. Kildare haven't won it recently and yet they've played in the last four Leinster Finals winning three of them.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 23/04/2017 20:52:43    1981981

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Replying To beir_bua:  "It's pointless reading too much into the Leinster Minor League. Kildare haven't won it recently and yet they've played in the last four Leinster Finals winning three of them."
Agree, the league is good for trying out guys especially the full panel. Championship completely different. Not taking away from Meaths performances in the league which included hammering Kildare but underage in Leinster championship is very competitive.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 24/04/2017 19:55:34    1982339

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "Agree, the league is good for trying out guys especially the full panel. Championship completely different. Not taking away from Meaths performances in the league which included hammering Kildare but underage in Leinster championship is very competitive."
agree to a point,but my problem was the fact that meath changed tactics in the 2nd half while 10 ahead and they hadn't used those tactics in the league.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/04/2017 21:02:22    1982358

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "agree to a point,but my problem was the fact that meath changed tactics in the 2nd half while 10 ahead and they hadn't used those tactics in the league."
I think it was a bit of naivety on sideline part. Luckily they get another shot, if it happened in next round they'd be out. Learn and move on.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/04/2017 11:40:38    1982490

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so I see there is a back-door in the Leinster Minor football championship meaning those teams that got beaten in the first round goin to a qualifier

Meath v Laois;
Wicklow v Wexford;
Westmeath v Carlow

Dublin,Louth,Kildare,Offaly and Longford are through to the quarter-finals.
Is it straight knockout from there. (with the losing finalist through to an all-Ireland quarter-final against a provincial winner).

I believe in Ulster there is no back door . What is the situation in Connacht and Munster.

It is strange that each province is different yet they all feed in to the all-Ireland series. (Well It's the GAA I suppose, so I shouldn't be shocked)

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 25/04/2017 14:10:55    1982537

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back door in Munster and Leinster, no 2nd chance in Connacht or Ulster. Probably should be groups to help with development

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 25/04/2017 16:20:49    1982583

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Backdoor system is great idea at minor , to ask a 17 Year old to sacrifice at that age what a county player does is savage, they are either big kids/young men which ever way you look at it and speaking from experience Ive nothing but total admiration for them and what they do for their county whilst juggling a life and education, for it to go on the back of one game is very very harsh,
Equally if there are second chances then there should be second chances for all , but that's an issue to provincial boards who are not affording them to their youngsters

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 26/04/2017 10:25:53    1982787

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Backdoor system is great idea at minor , to ask a 17 Year old to sacrifice at that age what a county player does is savage, they are either big kids/young men which ever way you look at it and speaking from experience Ive nothing but total admiration for them and what they do for their county whilst juggling a life and education, for it to go on the back of one game is very very harsh,
Equally if there are second chances then there should be second chances for all , but that's an issue to provincial boards who are not affording them to their youngsters"
Agree with Damo wholeheartedly here.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/04/2017 11:01:58    1982802

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Looking forward to Galway v Mayo in the Connacht Minor Preliminary Round this weekend. Galway looked unstoppable in the Connacht League winning 5/5. Mayo will be looking to make a game of it in Castlebar but will be difficult without O' Brien, Moran, and Durcan. From what I hear Galway hammered Dublin the week before the Dubs victory over Meath so they will take a lot of stopping. Really hope Mayo do it as I think the winner of this has a great opportunity to win Connacht title.

messi (Mayo) - Posts: 62 - 26/04/2017 20:04:31    1982993

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Backdoor system is great idea at minor , to ask a 17 Year old to sacrifice at that age what a county player does is savage, they are either big kids/young men which ever way you look at it and speaking from experience Ive nothing but total admiration for them and what they do for their county whilst juggling a life and education, for it to go on the back of one game is very very harsh,
Equally if there are second chances then there should be second chances for all , but that's an issue to provincial boards who are not affording them to their youngsters"
agree with 2nd chances just not the way they structure it.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/04/2017 12:46:00    1983113

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clare play limerick in the munster minor football semi wed week. winners are guaranteed a place in all ireland quarter final win or lose the munster final. clare lost to kerry in first round.if they had heroically beaten kerry and lost to cork by a point in the semi final they would be gone..the munster minor both hurling and football structures is and has been for a good few years,a bad and sad joke..waterford hurlers lost 3 times a few years ago and still got to the all ire quarter final..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 27/04/2017 13:12:57    1983124

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Replying To kavvie:  "clare play limerick in the munster minor football semi wed week. winners are guaranteed a place in all ireland quarter final win or lose the munster final. clare lost to kerry in first round.if they had heroically beaten kerry and lost to cork by a point in the semi final they would be gone..the munster minor both hurling and football structures is and has been for a good few years,a bad and sad joke..waterford hurlers lost 3 times a few years ago and still got to the all ire quarter final.."
s, was it the Kerry or Tipp minor footballers that got beaten twice or 3 times too a few years ago and still made it all the way.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 27/04/2017 13:18:11    1983128

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Massive performance from Galway minors today, but more work still to do before Roscommon (28th of June, leaving Cert gets in the way first) They have been putting teams to the sword very quickly this year and have carried this on from the Connacht minor league. Stephen Joyce has to be commended, the brand of football is wonderful and high class foot passing is very easy on the eye. They amount of talent is a bonus. Galway now have the Indian sign over Mayo at underage level. Oran Burke in goals Mulkerrins, Murphy and Silke look like they can make the step up to U20 grade next year and eventually to the senior team.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 721 - 30/04/2017 15:52:39    1983624

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Very worrying from a Mayo perspective that we are not even giving Galway a game for the third year in a row. No complains that Galway were the far superior team. I won't panic because you never know with minors but it is still very worrying. Have to feel for our lads with no back door.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 30/04/2017 17:47:02    1983638

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Replying To s goldrick:  "s, was it the Kerry or Tipp minor footballers that got beaten twice or 3 times too a few years ago and still made it all the way."
It wasn't us bud. I can't remember anyone being beat 3 times.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 30/04/2017 19:44:41    1983661

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Replying To s goldrick:  "s, was it the Kerry or Tipp minor footballers that got beaten twice or 3 times too a few years ago and still made it all the way."
You might be thinking of 2012: Tipperary beat Kerry in the first round and then beat them again in the Munster final. Tipp then lost the in the all-Ireland quarter-final and Kerry got to the semi-final where they were also beaten. The formats for the Munster minor football and hurling championships are ridiculous and can lead to bizarre scenarios. The GAA should do something to make the formats more consistent across the provinces.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 30/04/2017 20:28:01    1983679

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "It wasn't us bud. I can't remember anyone being beat 3 times."
Ye were beaten 3 times in 2012. Munster round 1 and final and All Ireland semi.

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 30/04/2017 21:11:25    1983689

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Good way to get over the hangover of yesterdays disappointment for Galway followers. Very good win and obviously another very good minor side this year. I was taken aback when I learned Evan Murphy was underage again this year. He impressed me last year.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 01/05/2017 01:01:00    1983712

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