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Hi lads, good battle yesterday we were lucky to win. Does anyone know what the attendance was? Thanks. Best of luck for the rest of the year.

MarkRule (Mayo) - Posts: 41 - 10/02/2020 11:34:44    2266742

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Just read the match report, anyone know why Devine and Walsh were taken off? No mention in the report. I thought they were both effective and a cardinal sin taking them off unless they were injured!

Tweety (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 10/02/2020 11:38:03    2266744

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Thought the second half performance was the best we have seen so far from this team. Unlucky to lose in terrible windy conditions. Mayo seemed to have more support than we did-certainly louder.

Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 10/02/2020 12:30:17    2266762

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Replying To Tweety:  "Just read the match report, anyone know why Devine and Walsh were taken off? No mention in the report. I thought they were both effective and a cardinal sin taking them off unless they were injured!"
they probably felt as they were only coming back from injuries they they would not have it in their legs

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 10/02/2020 13:13:58    2266774

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I dont want to be negative.. there is great work going on but i feel we are a division 2 team. when was the last time we beat a division 1 team in league or championship? the fact we have so many injuries as well gives us little chance of winning a game.

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 10/02/2020 13:56:03    2266791

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Replying To Poormouth:  "Thought the second half performance was the best we have seen so far from this team. Unlucky to lose in terrible windy conditions. Mayo seemed to have more support than we did-certainly louder."
The stand was mostly at least 50% Mayo I'd say as they were there fairly early - the terrace was mostly Meath as far as I could see.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 10/02/2020 14:22:34    2266798

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Much better display than previous week and unlucky to not come away with a win in very difficult conditions. With a little more experience the game could have been won. With 2 points up and playing with a strong wind, more defenders should have stayed inside the 35m line in the last few minutes. Best of luck to all next day out.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/02/2020 16:06:53    2266846

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Disappointing not to get the win, our lack of experience at this level is really showing but look it's all a learning curve.

I thought we needed something from our first 2 games to be in with a chance of survival but 0 out of 6 points more or less condemns us.

6pts is generally the safety mark, and we could possibly take Galway in Navan but with away games to come against Kerry, Dublin and Monaghan I think it's safe to say Div2 football will be returning to Navan in 2021.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 10/02/2020 16:31:15    2266848

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Replying To Crinigan:  "In this day and age when there are so many kickable frees awarded (due to amount of breaking lines you have to do againt mass defences), you have to have a high percentage free taker even if hes a bit a of a passenger in the team otherwise.

Whether that's Cathal Finnegan or Dardis or Luke Mitchell, whoever - there should be one on the field at all times. Jesus when you think of all the kickable frees that have been squandered in the past few years. Its just outrageous."
Saw young Mitchell play for 20s last week - and sorry - he is not an option - not yet anyway

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 475 - 10/02/2020 17:32:29    2266855

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "Saw young Mitchell play for 20s last week - and sorry - he is not an option - not yet anyway"
Totally agree. And he is amazingly talented and such a natural finisher with good height and a solid frame but he needs to fill out and get solid S&C into him. He is under 20 this year and next year. In time I think he'll be a great forward for the seniors but not yet. I have similar feelings with Matthew Costello and Jack O'Connor. Last year with Campion and Devine we seen lads who had played high level with Meath from 17-20. They then came out with the seniors once they were finished under 20 and looked really ready for it. Before that we thrown in Joey Wallace, Brian McMahon, Eamon Wallace (albeit he lit it up his first year), Harnan, James Mc, Cillian. We threw them in at 19 or 20 and they have either suffered with injuries or lack of confidence (Joey and Brian Mc). I'd love if the young prospects were left alone until 20 so that when they come out they are really ready and confident in the impact they can make. I'd prefer is this policy is taken with the lads who won Leinster 17's at the 00 and 01 age. Maybe the exception is Shane Walsh because he is such a physically developed under 20

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 10/02/2020 21:51:50    2266914

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Totally agree. And he is amazingly talented and such a natural finisher with good height and a solid frame but he needs to fill out and get solid S&C into him. He is under 20 this year and next year. In time I think he'll be a great forward for the seniors but not yet. I have similar feelings with Matthew Costello and Jack O'Connor. Last year with Campion and Devine we seen lads who had played high level with Meath from 17-20. They then came out with the seniors once they were finished under 20 and looked really ready for it. Before that we thrown in Joey Wallace, Brian McMahon, Eamon Wallace (albeit he lit it up his first year), Harnan, James Mc, Cillian. We threw them in at 19 or 20 and they have either suffered with injuries or lack of confidence (Joey and Brian Mc). I'd love if the young prospects were left alone until 20 so that when they come out they are really ready and confident in the impact they can make. I'd prefer is this policy is taken with the lads who won Leinster 17's at the 00 and 01 age. Maybe the exception is Shane Walsh because he is such a physically developed under 20"
Agree with all of the points above regarding Mitchell. Has all the attributes needed to be a inter county forward but needs to do serious work on S&C and be a bit more aggressive in general. However I believe that the Meath U20's this year do not have an S&C Coach and don't do any gym based conditioning at all, so how and when are the likes of Luke Mitchell and others suppose to get this conditioning under their belt! How are these lads going to be ready for the step up to senior if they don't have that base underneath them before they are brought into the panel. It is no wonder that Andy is brining the likes of McGowan, Costello and O'Connor straight into the senior squad at a young age so as to insure they are getting the necessary training required. I know Dublin have all the resources to fund there U20's with everything they need, but they have been training since November and have held a training camp weekend already before the championship started, and you can be guaranteed are following an S&C program, which is vital for injury prevention and being able to be fast and powerful. Con O'Callaghan is a prime example of someone who has been building every year since Minor, through U21 up to Senior with proper S&C and the power work all the way up, and the prove of this is there for all to see.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 11/02/2020 08:46:16    2266976

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where has royaldunne gone to he has no post since saturday night /?

grouser (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 11/02/2020 15:37:21    2267081

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Replying To grouser:  "where has royaldunne gone to he has no post since saturday night /?"
He developed locked in syndrome since Sinn Fein topped the polls.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 11/02/2020 16:24:40    2267089

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Replying To bert09:  "He developed locked in syndrome since Sinn Fein topped the polls."
Every cloud has a silver lining

bluegossun (Meath) - Posts: 70 - 11/02/2020 20:15:58    2267144

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Replying To bluegossun:  "Every cloud has a silver lining"
Ah he's a sound oul skin. I give him a hard time on here but you'll see him at every match, O'Byrne Cup in January etc. I respect his passion for the county.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 11/02/2020 21:12:42    2267160

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Ah he's a sound oul skin. I give him a hard time on here but you'll see him at every match, O'Byrne Cup in January etc. I respect his passion for the county."
He livens up the tread, hope he and all his family are keeping well.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 11/02/2020 21:29:49    2267167

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While results have gone against us and we will probably be relegated this hasn't been the worst league campaign.

From the opening 3 games we've learned the following:
1.) Brian Conlon is an option in the half back line and provides extra coverage there.
2.) Ronan Jones could be an answer at midfield, he's still getting back into playing at a high level.
3.) Thomas O Reilly has shown he can be effective at times, while he's not an out and out scorer he can win ball and chip in with a few points.
4.) Some players aren't up to the standard of division 1 just yet while others are more squad players rather than starters
5.) We need a free take and he needs to be built into the team long term, now whether that is O Connor or Walsh it needs to be decided in the coming games or even with the 20s
6.) Goalkeeper is still an issue.

I think the next four league games should be used to try get Lavin, Gallaher, Harnan and Newman back from injury while getting Conlon, Jones and O Reilly as much game time as possible and working on a kickout out strategy.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 11/02/2020 22:28:37    2267183

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Replying To meath1977:  "they probably felt as they were only coming back from injuries they they would not have it in their legs"
Most likely reason I suppose, we lost some presence with their removal unfortunately.

Tweety (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 12/02/2020 09:43:26    2267215

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Agree with all of the points above regarding Mitchell. Has all the attributes needed to be a inter county forward but needs to do serious work on S&C and be a bit more aggressive in general. However I believe that the Meath U20's this year do not have an S&C Coach and don't do any gym based conditioning at all, so how and when are the likes of Luke Mitchell and others suppose to get this conditioning under their belt! How are these lads going to be ready for the step up to senior if they don't have that base underneath them before they are brought into the panel. It is no wonder that Andy is brining the likes of McGowan, Costello and O'Connor straight into the senior squad at a young age so as to insure they are getting the necessary training required. I know Dublin have all the resources to fund there U20's with everything they need, but they have been training since November and have held a training camp weekend already before the championship started, and you can be guaranteed are following an S&C program, which is vital for injury prevention and being able to be fast and powerful. Con O'Callaghan is a prime example of someone who has been building every year since Minor, through U21 up to Senior with proper S&C and the power work all the way up, and the prove of this is there for all to see."
There needs to be an overall policy from the county board that nobody under 20 gets considered for Seniors as is the case for Dublin. Also this year the 20s finishes at the end of March at latest which leaves ample time until next year to give all of the players, including those that are overage but not selected for senior, programmes for S&C, Athletic development, skills development etc and arrange for them to have access to facilities to enable this development while carrying out ongoing evaluation of their progress during the year. Obviously this would be operating in tandem with their obligations to their clubs so it is enabling the players while allowing access to club football. This should fall within Seamus Kenny's portfolio so there is no extra cost beyond arranging facilities and expertise.

ABK67 (Meath) - Posts: 62 - 12/02/2020 11:00:22    2267245

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Ok firstly I apologize for my absence since Saturday, unfortunately I didn't get to the match on Sunday due to circumstances out of my control and only had interrupted coverage on tg4 YouTube, and haven't been well myself for last couple of days.
A thanks to those I may not always agreed with on here for noticing my absence, I was absolutely gutted when we lost on Sunday, the last time I checked in we were up by a point going into closing seconds next thing I get a text saying it's over and we lost by one, I was crestfallen at that stage, to later hear we gave away a goal , got it back to one point and then ref blows up exactly on the added time only added to my disappointment. As I said I only caught snippets of game so I'm not going to comment on it, the bits I saw I liked, mcentee goal I thought was brilliant, cos point from advanced mark again looked like we were learning.
I hear it was Clarke who got turned over , again not goin to comment as I didn't see it.
It's very frustrating tbh I think we left this one behind us, probably the most winnable game in this campaign.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/02/2020 13:59:27    2267301

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