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Replying To southmeathgael:  "They've all been either looked at or tried, if they aren't there, they aren't good enough, so suck it up and stop moaning and being paranoid about north vs south meath and support MEATH. Do you honestly think a manager is going to leave a talented lad out cause he doesnt live south of navan?? I do worry about some of yee lads sometimes"
Who mentioned north v South, you did so it's you that has the hang up. We just mentioned 2 lads. On the issue that they have all been looked at , how is this possible as the manager was only appointed a couple of weeks ago. Most of these lads were finished playing weeks before that. Maybe you can fill us on on this.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 05/01/2020 19:35:47    2257594

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "They've all been either looked at or tried, if they aren't there, they aren't good enough, so suck it up and stop moaning and being paranoid about north vs south meath and support MEATH. Do you honestly think a manager is going to leave a talented lad out cause he doesnt live south of navan?? I do worry about some of yee lads sometimes"
You'd have to laugh. Just because a lad wracks up a score in an under 21 C match at 13 a side they overrate young lads.

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 05/01/2020 19:38:21    2257595

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Replying To latouche25:  "Who mentioned north v South, you did so it's you that has the hang up. We just mentioned 2 lads. On the issue that they have all been looked at , how is this possible as the manager was only appointed a couple of weeks ago. Most of these lads were finished playing weeks before that. Maybe you can fill us on on this."
Because the manager Ger Robinson was a selector with the Dunboyne senior team so would be familiar with the senior teams, he was also intermediate manager so familiar with them, and junior manager in 2018 when they won it so he has experience in Senior, Inter and Junior over the last 2 years. Also, a selector with the 17's 3 years ago so knows this age well from that. Not to mention he has a backroom team that also bring their knowledge to it. And maybe North vs South Meath wasn't mentioned but it's funny that you never hear lads on here campaigning for South Meath lads to be on Meath panels because we know that if you're good enough you're on it or at least asked to be on it

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 05/01/2020 19:53:55    2257599

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Replying To latouche25:  "Who mentioned north v South, you did so it's you that has the hang up. We just mentioned 2 lads. On the issue that they have all been looked at , how is this possible as the manager was only appointed a couple of weeks ago. Most of these lads were finished playing weeks before that. Maybe you can fill us on on this."
We all need to just get behind management I would be very confident they know what they are doing. We are a County going places slowly I can feel the tide turning and it won't be long until we have our time in the Sun again.
Meath on 3???
1-2-3 MEATH

Lampnoodle1980 (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 05/01/2020 20:19:33    2257607

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Replying To latouche25:  "Who mentioned north v South, you did so it's you that has the hang up. We just mentioned 2 lads. On the issue that they have all been looked at , how is this possible as the manager was only appointed a couple of weeks ago. Most of these lads were finished playing weeks before that. Maybe you can fill us on on this."
Every club in Meath received an e mail asking them to send players to the trial games. If a lad isn't on the panel he either wasn't good enough or his club secretary failed to respond to the e mail

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 230 - 05/01/2020 20:24:34    2257608

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "They've all been either looked at or tried, if they aren't there, they aren't good enough, so suck it up and stop moaning and being paranoid about north vs south meath and support MEATH. Do you honestly think a manager is going to leave a talented lad out cause he doesnt live south of navan?? I do worry about some of yee lads sometimes"
So Donncha Tobin wasn't good enough for Meath u21s, was he? He was suddenly Meath's best player then 3 years later? So your theory says we shouldn't have dated question why he wasn't on that panel...

And it's a forum - should we just tell anyone who ever says a player should be on a panel just to suck it up and accept who is picked. It's all opinion.

Personally I'm not sure what Ger Robinson has ever done to deserve being a Meath manager. Time will tell I suppose.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 05/01/2020 22:17:03    2257631

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Because the manager Ger Robinson was a selector with the Dunboyne senior team so would be familiar with the senior teams, he was also intermediate manager so familiar with them, and junior manager in 2018 when they won it so he has experience in Senior, Inter and Junior over the last 2 years. Also, a selector with the 17's 3 years ago so knows this age well from that. Not to mention he has a backroom team that also bring their knowledge to it. And maybe North vs South Meath wasn't mentioned but it's funny that you never hear lads on here campaigning for South Meath lads to be on Meath panels because we know that if you're good enough you're on it or at least asked to be on it"
South Meath lads like Donncha Tobin? Or Anthony Moyles maybe... all overlooked at u21 level. You gonna tell me they were not good enough?

Do you actually have an opinion LetrimRoyal or do you just blindly follow whatever team management picks?

Also your case for Ger Robinson is actually laughable. He's been a selector on a minor team and has managed a junior team - jaysus maybe I'll apply for Meath u20 manager next year myself. Sure to raise money for Pairc Tailtean maybe we could raffle off the position of Meath u20 manager next year? Would make as much sense.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 05/01/2020 22:26:57    2257633

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The trials have been going on the past few weeks and from what I heard 15 lads who clubs themselves had said would be there didnt even show up. Let the lads do there job with who wanted to be on the panel

CMAN1570 (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 05/01/2020 23:39:58    2257647

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Because the manager Ger Robinson was a selector with the Dunboyne senior team so would be familiar with the senior teams, he was also intermediate manager so familiar with them, and junior manager in 2018 when they won it so he has experience in Senior, Inter and Junior over the last 2 years. Also, a selector with the 17's 3 years ago so knows this age well from that. Not to mention he has a backroom team that also bring their knowledge to it. And maybe North vs South Meath wasn't mentioned but it's funny that you never hear lads on here campaigning for South Meath lads to be on Meath panels because we know that if you're good enough you're on it or at least asked to be on it"
Oh God your having a laugh. As the championship is rum in division's how would he have possibly seen half of these lads.
As for the backroom team, just because he has a couple of names with him means nothing. We had names last year and look what we got.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 06/01/2020 06:44:09    2257659

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Replying To Crinigan:  "South Meath lads like Donncha Tobin? Or Anthony Moyles maybe... all overlooked at u21 level. You gonna tell me they were not good enough?

Do you actually have an opinion LetrimRoyal or do you just blindly follow whatever team management picks?

Also your case for Ger Robinson is actually laughable. He's been a selector on a minor team and has managed a junior team - jaysus maybe I'll apply for Meath u20 manager next year myself. Sure to raise money for Pairc Tailtean maybe we could raffle off the position of Meath u20 manager next year? Would make as much sense."
Who would you have appointed so, also he won a Junior championship as main manager, selector for a Keegan winning management, and selector for the first Meath mens team to win a Leinster title in 7 years with the under 17 team in 2017. Also his first game as under 20 manager was a win against Dublin. We might not do well this year at 20's (we never seem to do well at 21's/20's). Also I do have an opinion, my opinion is that North Meath clubs have a gigantic chip on their shoulder and think that the Meath hierarchy and management are against them, I think this is bullshit. That's my opinion

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 06/01/2020 08:02:44    2257662

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Replying To Crinigan:  "South Meath lads like Donncha Tobin? Or Anthony Moyles maybe... all overlooked at u21 level. You gonna tell me they were not good enough?

Do you actually have an opinion LetrimRoyal or do you just blindly follow whatever team management picks?

Also your case for Ger Robinson is actually laughable. He's been a selector on a minor team and has managed a junior team - jaysus maybe I'll apply for Meath u20 manager next year myself. Sure to raise money for Pairc Tailtean maybe we could raffle off the position of Meath u20 manager next year? Would make as much sense."
Btw that wasn't my case for Ger Robinson's case as the manager. That was my case for him knowing the players and the playing pool

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 06/01/2020 08:12:07    2257664

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Anyway I would suggest we get behind the team that just beat Dublin with 3 of our best players on the senior team. The reality is there is massive talent and potential on this team and hopefully the experience that about 20 of them got last year stands to them

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 06/01/2020 11:59:36    2257711

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Anyway I would suggest we get behind the team that just beat Dublin with 3 of our best players on the senior team. The reality is there is massive talent and potential on this team and hopefully the experience that about 20 of them got last year stands to them"
Agreed.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 06/01/2020 13:26:08    2257743

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Who would you have appointed so, also he won a Junior championship as main manager, selector for a Keegan winning management, and selector for the first Meath mens team to win a Leinster title in 7 years with the under 17 team in 2017. Also his first game as under 20 manager was a win against Dublin. We might not do well this year at 20's (we never seem to do well at 21's/20's). Also I do have an opinion, my opinion is that North Meath clubs have a gigantic chip on their shoulder and think that the Meath hierarchy and management are against them, I think this is bullshit. That's my opinion"
So you're entitled to an opinion and we're not. Nobody is against Ger Robinson, best of luck to him. By the looks of the team that played last week it was based on the u17 team of 3 years ago. Some of these lads have not developed since then. I mentioned 2 lads. Adam Muldoon a starting senior for kells this year. Conal Courtney was not.
Dylan Morgan was the main forward for Kilmainham all year, ahead of Michael Newman. Now to see both of these lads missing from the team is questionable, while Courtney and Paddy Mathews were there. Neither of these lads have progressed since minor. All these lads are North Meath by the way.
For people to rubbish a lad for scoring 2-16 in a game is silly. He played in the same division as Mathews and Morris none of them came close to that.
Finally to say that an email went out to every club looking for lads to come to trials and 17 didn't turn up means the management didn't know who are out there. It's not u14 they should know who they want and contact them directly. But then the county board should have appointed him last year after Callaghan was done. Then he would have had a chance to see these lads all summer long.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 06/01/2020 20:25:49    2257848

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Replying To latouche25:  "So you're entitled to an opinion and we're not. Nobody is against Ger Robinson, best of luck to him. By the looks of the team that played last week it was based on the u17 team of 3 years ago. Some of these lads have not developed since then. I mentioned 2 lads. Adam Muldoon a starting senior for kells this year. Conal Courtney was not.
Dylan Morgan was the main forward for Kilmainham all year, ahead of Michael Newman. Now to see both of these lads missing from the team is questionable, while Courtney and Paddy Mathews were there. Neither of these lads have progressed since minor. All these lads are North Meath by the way.
For people to rubbish a lad for scoring 2-16 in a game is silly. He played in the same division as Mathews and Morris none of them came close to that.
Finally to say that an email went out to every club looking for lads to come to trials and 17 didn't turn up means the management didn't know who are out there. It's not u14 they should know who they want and contact them directly. But then the county board should have appointed him last year after Callaghan was done. Then he would have had a chance to see these lads all summer long."
Adam Muldoon is on the panel and was on the bench according to my brother who was at the game . Also the squad started training the week before Christmas. Along with players who were picked for the original panel all clubs were contacted about sending additional players who were not in the panel that were in training already for 2 trial games. A further trial game took place the week after for the players not involved in the panel. So the management did know the players and picked their panel accordingly and also rightly put it out there and invited clubs to send other players to try out. Whether any players from the trial games got brought into the panel I have no idea but sounds to me like the management tried to cover all bases. It's all opinions and if they had the Morgan lad in the panel instead of paddy Matthews let's say u would have someone else saying why isn't he on the panel. That's always gonna be the way. Best thing we can do is get behind the management and team and hope they do well.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 06/01/2020 23:08:34    2257873

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Adam Muldoon is on the panel and was on the bench according to my brother who was at the game . Also the squad started training the week before Christmas. Along with players who were picked for the original panel all clubs were contacted about sending additional players who were not in the panel that were in training already for 2 trial games. A further trial game took place the week after for the players not involved in the panel. So the management did know the players and picked their panel accordingly and also rightly put it out there and invited clubs to send other players to try out. Whether any players from the trial games got brought into the panel I have no idea but sounds to me like the management tried to cover all bases. It's all opinions and if they had the Morgan lad in the panel instead of paddy Matthews let's say u would have someone else saying why isn't he on the panel. That's always gonna be the way. Best thing we can do is get behind the management and team and hope they do well."
Well said! I was in Dunganny for the trial games on the 28th of December and they looked at a huge number of players in the trial games! (Some decent players in the trial games by the way!) Then they had the original panel players out for a run and their was a big number of these too! Some of the lads trained with the Senior team the same day - Walsh. Morris, McGowan and O'Connor - so all told they must have looked at about 80 lads!
They did ask a couple of the lads involved in the first trial to stay for the second trial game as apparently 17 lads who said they would attend didn't show up! I was in Dunganny for over 4 hours and the management were there before I arrived and were still on the pitch when I was leaving! Whatever comes of this - it won't be for a lack of effort!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 07/01/2020 13:06:27    2257959

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6 changes since the win over Dublin seems alot of disruption to a winning formula. Does anyone know are these driven by injury reasons or what is the deal?

Tweety (Meath) - Posts: 30 - 10/01/2020 14:31:06    2258734

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Replying To Tweety:  "6 changes since the win over Dublin seems alot of disruption to a winning formula. Does anyone know are these driven by injury reasons or what is the deal?"
Surely you are joking with this comment? If not I assume you have no clue what so ever about the U20 competition.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 10/01/2020 14:45:39    2258737

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Replying To Tweety:  "6 changes since the win over Dublin seems alot of disruption to a winning formula. Does anyone know are these driven by injury reasons or what is the deal?"
I don't know but I suspect that management want to look at different combinations. Also, none of the lads involved in the Senior panel are involved with the 20's this weekend. This league is really more like arranged challenge games so I wouldn't be getting to bent out of shape about who is playing and who isn't just yet.

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 10/01/2020 14:48:26    2258739

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Replying To Tweety:  "6 changes since the win over Dublin seems alot of disruption to a winning formula. Does anyone know are these driven by injury reasons or what is the deal?"
It's a development League so I'm guessing they are not overly concerned with the result and are focusing more on getting a look at as many players as possible from their panel so that come championship they make the best informed decision on what the strongest team is.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 10/01/2020 14:49:50    2258740

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