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We've had a shocking League campaign so far but we need to win this game against Louth, otherwise I think there's a strong possibility of us being condemned to the pits of Division 3 again. It will be interesting to see how we react under pressure because the pressure really is on now, we have to get a result, don't forget if we lose and Down and Clare both win, then it's curtains for us anyway. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 15/03/2018 10:38:29 2084704 Link 12 |
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Form goes out the window in local derby games but and no offense to Ollie or any other Louth supporters but Louth are the worst side i have seen in D2 in quite a while. Its remarkable Kelly got them promoted last year. Cant see anything other than a Meath win but as i said anything can happen in a game between rivals. Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 15/03/2018 11:03:54 2084712 Link 0 |
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Cuckoosinging no offense taking. Louth by far are the worse side in this league but look you have take the good with the bad and the ugly. Anyone can support a team that's winning. True supporters stick by the their team through thick and thin. Louth were one of the favorites to be relegated from Division 3 last year and I would of been happy if they avoided relegation but fair play to Kelly he got Louth promoted two seasons in a row and he has a great chance of getting Westmeath promoted to Division 2 this year. Looking forward as usual to this Battle of the Boyne clash and with it been held in Drawda it just adds extra spice to this.
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 15/03/2018 13:55:10 2084737 Link 1 |
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I think the difference between MOD bad loses and the recent run of bad form this team is going though is. With MOD you always taught a new manager could fix it. This time however we have a good manager but still results are awful. (albeit some baffling decisions to say the least .. that's already been said ) So where do go from here ? The is no short fix this time. Invest in underage and get the right people involved. Don't keep changing mangers, it probably hasn't helped. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 15/03/2018 15:40:41 2084763 Link 2 |
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This logic, or lack thereof, kills me. Andy is a good manager and MOD wasn't one? MOD is demonstrably a better inter county manager than Andy is thus far. MOD had basically the same team playing far, far superior football. Andy was supposed to bring steel and superior fitness to the group to stop the second half collapses. Instead he has served up a team that awful to watch and results have gone backwards. A good manager gets a group to be more than the sum of it's parts, I'm pretty sure we are not seeing that.
pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 15/03/2018 17:56:44 2084791 Link 5 |
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Louth got promoted last year but then lost a lot of key players some thru retirement. No dis-respect but at present they would be nowhere near the top half of Div 3. Now they will improve come championship. The pitch in Drogheda is very difficult (wet) in this time of year.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 15/03/2018 19:09:51 2084801 Link 15 |
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You are absolutely correct but this doesn't sit well with all the posters here who were slating and some still slating MOD. The messiah has not delivered and not only that but we are now unwatchable as well.
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 15/03/2018 19:20:32 2084804 Link 16 |
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I would agree with you Htaem it was a bad League campaign , But we are definitely not division 1 material and we are not bad enough to be a Division 3 either , we are a division 2 side and hopefully the lads will win the last two games . I feel sorry for Andy Mcentee, because at the start of the year couple of fans on here were talking up the idea of promotion and Andy is the messiah who will lead Meath back to glory ! Thats unbelievable expectation and pressure on Andy Mcentee and the lads..Andy and the footballers would deal with negativity better than whooped up unbelievable expectation ..but this build up of expectation on Andy is absolute joke and all it did was made him a target. When Andy Mcentee got the job ballyboden..there was no expectation or pressure on him,he did his thing and came under the radar and won all Ireland club title. Negativity is a good thing for Andy Mcentee ....look what Negativity did to Mick O'dowd,nearly every post on here is now how good a manger Mick O'dowd was ! And all he got was dogs abuse on here 2 years ago :/ WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 875 - 15/03/2018 19:41:41 2084809 Link 17 |
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Gosh I wonder, Maybe its not the managers Micko or Andy thats been the problem.... Could it be we haven't the players I wonder.... Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 15/03/2018 19:47:43 2084812 Link 2 |
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For those who attended our county final last October--what did you make of the standard? bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 15/03/2018 21:15:42 2084824 Link 0 |
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Well I think most people know Andy won an all Ireland with ballboden got meath minors to all Ireland etc so that's where I any coming from with been a good manager. I am not defending him just pointing out where I was coming form
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 15/03/2018 21:54:40 2084829 Link 0 |
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I go to many club matches and I have learned over the years that one does not base opinions on a single match. Now it was difficult to determine the standard considering that one team did not turn up. I hope that helps!
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 15/03/2018 22:19:05 2084837 Link 15 |
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Agreed, cant really base the standard off county final alone. Simonstown v Dunboyne in the QF was as good a game as ive seen in years in Meath TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 229 - 16/03/2018 11:02:02 2084892 Link 0 |
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Hence the reason I said better inter county manager. Club management is a lot less tactical. The group has less time together (thanks to the inter county scene) and there isn't the same focus on negating the opposition. It's very evident that Andy was shocked by the nature of the defeat to Kildare. He abandoned the way his teams always played and totally changed tactics after that. I wouldn't knock him for that he tried something else, it hasn't worked. pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 16/03/2018 13:27:20 2084913 Link 0 |
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I think the club scene in Meath is quite competitive and of a reasonable standard compared to most other counties.... (Waiting for the look at the dublin club champ comparison) Obviously there are things that could be done to improve it There is no doubt that we do not have 18 teams fit to be Senior, results in a lot of one sided games, and 2 many meaningless games. ideally we should have 12 Senior teams, with 16/18 intermediate, would make both championships ultra competitive and ultimately benefit the county set up.... wouldnt hold the breath though, cant see the turkeys voting for Christmas longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 16/03/2018 13:32:28 2084914 Link 0 |
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In relation to the club scene I don't understand the logic that reducing the number of senior clubs will help the county set up. Senior Clubs will have far less championship games if it were reduced to twelve for example. How does that help the county set up. It might make the senior championship more intense because of fewer games but if you went to the quarters or semis last year there was plenty of intensity in them. In relation to Meath some people on this forum look on Andy as a messiah and are blaming the players for our current bad spell. I've gone to most games and I don't think Andy is doing a good job either tactically or with team selection. Last week against Cork was a shambles of a set up. That's not the players fault. Our players deserve better management. Hopefully we will win on Sunday and this will give Andy some time to reflect on where he is going wrong.
Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 16/03/2018 16:11:40 2084942 Link 0 |
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My point is that why do we need to wait until the qf or sf to get intensity in a senior champ game? The whole idea of a Senior Championship is that it should be intense from the get go, the way it is structured now, there is a lead in to build intensity. look at our neighbours in Monaghan, much smaller playing pool, much less senior clubs but the championship is ruthless, I think that translates to their Senior team, they make the absolute most of resources they have, the play at a serious intensity year on year... why cant we? agree re points on performances of late and the complete lack of a structured game plan, baffling in fairness
longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 16/03/2018 17:12:04 2084954 Link 0 |
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Orange warning for snow and Meath and Louth is in that area likely that game will be off leaving problems for the gaa as next Sunday week is last round all games has to go ahead at the same time. mid week fixture likely but is there floodlights in Louth venue meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 16/03/2018 19:34:48 2084969 Link 15 |
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Came on this thread to see if any teams were suggested for Sunday. Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 16/03/2018 20:26:38 2084976 Link 1 |
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Meath team named. Looking at it is difficult to get away from the feeling that it's just a shuffling of players except for Shane McEntee who is an ever present on the half back line. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 17/03/2018 08:27:04 2085018 Link 1 |