Replying To neverright:  "A good game for this time of the year. Ref had a tough job but did a reasonable job although, no doubt, both sets of fans will quibble with various decisions. Dublin keeper was very impressive with his kick-outs. Fenton was the dominant figure in the first half but was less evident in the second half and could have been punished on a couple of occasions for shoulder charging while in the possession of the ball. Mannion was well off his game when he came on but one of their forward subs (don't know his name) looked very promising. Kerry need Moran's phsical strength at midfield. Clifford is a joy to watch but needs to get more protection from refs particularly during the League."

Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=wexico15:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=wexico15:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "It's laughable when you see people question the Government regarding data yet the same people haven't a clue how to analyze the most basic data to begin with ! If you were to look at this forum as a vox pop, then god help Ireland. There's evil on the way, and you're wasting your time looking for an inquiry into how modelling is produced when the reality is most of you would be as well looking into a pot of spuds boiling."

Replying To Furlong1949:  "I will just throw this out there. It will surely annoy the Dubs but sure there is no harm in that. Its more factual commentary really. It depends if u agree or disagree. This is Dublins most sucess decade ever. This is Meaths worst decade since 1920s. This is kerrys worst decade along with 1990s since 1900s. Dublin are strong when Meath and kerry are weak ??. When kerry had great teams in 30s, 1950s, 1970s , 1980s and 00 Dublin were unsucessful. Kerry won 4 All Irelands in early 1930s. Dublin won 0 All Irelands in 1930s. Kerry won 3 All Irelands in 1950s with their one the first greatest kerry team ever Dublin won All Ireland at end of 1958 , but struggled in most of 1950s. Kerry were sucessful in late 70s and early 80s. Dublin's All Ireland sucess halted in this period. Kerry won 5 All Irelands in 00s Dublin won 0 All-Irelands in 00s . When Meath had great teams in late 40s early 50s mid late 60s late 80s and 90s Dublin were by largely unsucessful. Between 1947 to 1954 Meath win 2 All Irelands 5 Leinster titles 2 national league title. Dublin win 0 titles. Meath win 1 All Ireland 4 leinster titles from 1964 to 1971. Dublin win no titles . Meath win 4 All Irelands 8 leinsters and 3 national league titles Between 1986 to 2001. Dublin win 1 All Ireland in this period. When Meath and kerry have great teams Dublin struggle. Dublin can never deal.with great Meath and kerry teams. This current decade Meath and kerry have had poor era. Meaths worst since 1920s while Kerry All Ireland win in 2014 is bottom of the table in the last 50 years of kerry 16 All Irelands. There is no way u could place the kerry team of 2014 above kerry teams of 70s 80s and teams of 00s and two in a row kerry team of 1969 1970. If u made a list of All Irelands kerry teams which won All Irelands since 1969 to 2019, 2014 wud come 16th on the list of 16. This is been a very poor decade in kerry terms. Kerry won 3 All Irelands in 1900s Kerry won 2 All Irelands in 1910s kerry won 3 All Irelands in 1920s Kerry won 5 All Irelands in 1930s Kerry won 3 All Irelands in 1940s Kerry won 3 All Irelands in 1950s Kerry won 3 All Irelands in 1960s kerry won 4 All Irelands in 1970s kerry won 5 All Irelands in 1980s kerry won 1 All Ireland in 1990s kerry won 5 All Irelands in 2000s kerry won 1 All Ireland in 2010s As u can see 1990s and this decade is kerry worst era decade since 1900s. Kerry havent produced a great player in this decade up to Clifford. No kerry player debuted in this era would be an all.time great. Kerry debuted Sean Murphy in 1950s. Kerry debuted Mick O Connell in 1960s. kerry debuted Pat Spillane Paudi O Se in 1970s. kerry debuted Maurice Fitzgerald in 1980s . Kerry debuted D O Se T O Se and S Moyihan in 1990s and kerry debuted M O Se and Cooper in 2000s.. And each of those decades u had other great like Mickey Sheedy Bomber Listen Declan Sullivan Donaghy all debuted in each decade. The poorest decade in pretty much kerry history, no great kerry players debut since 2010 up to Clifford ( and we still neee to see if he can be great ). Kerrys worst All Ireland winning team in 50 years . Kerry are weak Dublin prosper. Dublin cannot handle a great kerry team. And on the horizon there looks like another great kerry team. Dublin won 0 All Irelands in 1930s. Meath won 0 All Irelands in 1930s. Dublin won 1 All Ireland in 1940s. Meath won 1 All Ireland in 1940s. Dublin won 1 All Ireland in 1950s. Meath won 1 All Ireland in 1950s. Dublin won 1 All Ireland in 1960s. Meath won 1 All in 1960s. Dublin won 3 All Irelands in 1970s. Meath won 0 All Irelands in 1970s. Dublin won 1 All Ireland in 1980s..Meath won 2 All Irelands in 1980s. Dublin won 1 All Ireland in 1990s. Meath won 2 All Irelands in 1990s. Dublin won 0 All Ireland in 00s. Meath won 0.All in 00s. So Meath went toe to toe with Dublin for nearly 90 years. But Meath stops going toe to toe with Dublin in this decade look what happens Dublin wins 6 All Irelands in 2010s. Meath win 0 All Irelands in 2010. Meath stop putting it up to Dublin and there is no great kerry or Meath team Dublin prosper. Dublin cannot deal with a great Meath or kerry team. To explain this furher look at the greatest gaa figure in kerry football history Mick Dwyer and greatest gaa figure in Meath football history Sean Boylan record v the Dubs. In 00s somerhing happens that changes the face of Dublin football for good. No not Cuxtons debut no not Brogans debut no not appointment of Caffrey or Gilroy as Dublin manager. The game changer for Dublin is Boylan and Dwyer retire from leinster championship after 30 years of being Dublins main nemisises. In the last 45 over 90% of defeats of Dublin in leinster championship are by Dwyer and Boylan teams. In last 45 years since Heffernans Dublin appeared in 1974 and created modern Dublin over 30 % of all defeats Dublin have suffered in All Ireland championship were by Boylan and Dwyer teams. The managers who defeated Dublin in leinster championship in last 45 years ( There was no managers before 45 years ago so this is a list of all the managers who have ever beaten Dublin in leinster championship ) 1 Victory over Dubs for Eamon O Brien Meath manager 2010 1 Victory over Dubs for Paudi O Se Westmeath manager 2003 1 Victory over Dubs for whoever was laois Manager 1981 2 Victories over Dubs for Eugene McGee Offaly Manager 1980 1981 3 Victories and 1 draw over Dubs for Mick Dwyer kildare manager 1998 and 2000 laois 2003. Draw 1998. 8 Victories and 4 draws over Dubs for Sean Boylan Meath manager 1986 1987 1988 1990 1991 1996 1999 2001. Draw 1983 3 draws in 1991. While if u add Mick Dwyers 5 victories over Dublin in the championship, between them Sean Boylan and Mick Dwyer defeated Dublin 16 times and 5 draws in All Ireland championship in 30 years. Before Dwyer took over kerry Dublin were All Ireland champions., looked like they were going to dominate football for a decade. And when Boylan took over Meath Dublin were just as dominate in leinster as they are now and just as dominate in the whole country as they r now. The only difference they can beat kerry now they couldnt in late 70s and 80s. So thats the record of how a Mesthman and kerryman teams stopped Dublin dominating football. But Meath and kerry teams were beating Dublin and keeping the Dubs long at bay before Dywer and Boylan. Between 1943 and 2010 Dublin defeated kerry twice in championship in 1976 1977. They defeated kerry in 1942 but that doesn't count as it was country lads playing for Dublin up to mid 40s. kerry played Dublin in All Ireland in 1942 and best kerry footballer on the field was playing for Dublin. And best footballer on the field was longford man playing for Dublin. When Dublin men started playing for Dublin kerry only lost twice in 70 years in the championship v Dublin. Between 1958 and 1997 every Leinster title was was won by Meath Dublin and Offaly. If it wasnt for Meath and lesser extent Offaly. Dublin would have won nearly 40 leinster titles in a row in 1950s 60s 70s 80s and 90s. So as I said at the start. When Meath and kerry are weak Dublin prosper. Dublin cannot deal.with great Meath and kerry teams. Dublin have had their greatest decade ever greatest team ever when there is no great kerry or Meath manager and Meath and kerry are having their worst decade in over 100 years pretty much. Is it coincidence or not.The facts tell one story Im sure the Dubs will tell.another story. Me Im saying nothing. I will leave it to u to form ur own opinion."

Replying To TheHermit:  "Jesus those last two paragraphs are some tripe. A team that won 5 All Ireland's and was in 6 finals in a row? You know, at a time when teams had to rely on just talent and not being thrown money by Croke Park. A team that contained the O'Ses, Galvin, Declan, Gooch, Star?? And they're not worth a mention compared to lads these past ten years? But hey whatever you think lad, you've the anti Kerry crowd slapping you on the back anyway :D"

Replying To tonguey:  "Dessie Farrell could miss the whole league- he will be such a loss to the thing- wonderful character. How we will miss his incredible passion and his tell all interviews after games. A hugely charismatic man. I think, we the public are the real losers here."

Replying To dubarra:  "Jesus take a break and give this Dublin team a little credit for their wonderful achievement of winning 5 in row .Your problem is that you think Kerry have a god given right to win the All Ireland every year and you can't stomach what Dublin have achieved. Kerry had the Indian sign over Dublin for many years and now that the wheels have turned all you can do is moan about what money they have. Tell me this when was Kerry ever short of anything in preparation to win All Ireland's.. I'll answer it for you NEVER"

Replying To SurelyToGod:  "How did a thread about Michael Murphy and Stephen Cluxton being the best players of the generation become about Kerry?"

Replying To tommy132:  "Id worry for Gary Sice health in later years with the amount of 'head injuries' he does go down with in games.."

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "For a small bit of ballance : If we're that cynical a team then why was Murchain able to run from near enough his own 65 to score a goal without a glove laid upon him in the allireland final replay 2019? Also Tom Flynn ran from his own half to score a goal in the 2014 allireland quarter final? Kevin McMinamon in the allireland final of 2011 from midfield? Oisín McConville in the allireland final of 2002. Surely a cynical team would pulled those players down wouldn't they?"

Replying To TheHermit:  "I tell you what I'd rather be Kingdomboy, a proud Kerry supporter instead of this usual crew of pathetic, petty, name calling WUM dregs! You'd be embarrassed for them if you gave them too much thought. Lillylanger Catch Finn, Multi-User Jimbo Sam84 What a fine collection they are, and there's a few more besides. There's a thing called whatsapp guys, you lads are crying out to get together on it, I'm sure the admins could arrange for you all to exchange numbers."

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "A grain of rice can tip the scales in sport my furry friend."

Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ya I think chrissy mckaigue scored 1:02 off him in a club semifinal 1 time as well while keeping him scoreless."

Replying To woops:  "The fact of all this is that the Tyrone sub was caught blatantly on tv doing what he was told to do by Micky Harte. The ever so nice Micky Harte! Typical they can't just own it and admit that their player was caught on blatant tv acting the b****x and David Clifford got punished more for it. Spouting Kerry are more cynical bla bla bla. Hopefully this incident is a date that will be marked in umpire and referee performances when the fouled player stops getting a yellow for rubbish like this."

Replying To TheHermit:  "My world does! Try not to be so jealous I know it's a tough life being a Cork man."

Replying To RicoSuave:  "You have upset the poor aul crayture now :) !!"

Replying To royaldunne:  "Were you on the gate ?? Did you count them ? I'm not having a go but tbh I don't know how anyone can say that for certain."

Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "It was Ciar's Kingdom, bout 50 AD or so. Pre-Norman so it has nothing to do with the English. On the other hand Cork is the rebel county because they supported some fella called warbeck, as during the war of the roses he was a pretender to the throne of England -) Also I wouldn't write us of yet in terms of Gaelic football as ye still have a fair way to go yet before ye can start comparing yer success to ours."

Replying To Hoofhearted:  "Kerry. For the good of football and because Kerry have always played proper football, even when the Ulster teams introduced this blanket defence, pulling and dragging and generally negative football, Kerry still kick passed the ball, played attacking football and are always a pleasure to watch. Dublin's main strength is their athleticism and obvious advantages in S&C, they are not as naturally gifted as the likes of Kerry or Mayo. The Kingdom are a team developed on the playing field, not in the gym. And I still remember how dirty and cynical the Dubs were in the 70's and 80's so it has to be Kerry for me. Come on the Kingdom !"