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abcyouno
County: Cavan
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fair play well done to cavan gaels have to say m lyng is a credit to cavan football and was very interesting all year went through some years with listening to crap from sidelines also red card all day long ,no other decision would of been fair .kingscourt had great play from several players only game this year they played for an hour b tully and b reilly and sj was definatly pick for man of match and 99/100 times winning team gets it .was not one of the great finals but was entertaining,well done to referee, county board.all supporters and stuarts and cavan gaels /kingscourt for a great championship had everything sports people and gaels want. from all at brefni park sunday castlerahen wish you were here lights out

You are a gales man, you did not see the match so would not have a clue. The man of the match was none other than M.Lyng played his heart out and was involved in everything. Close call to M. Lyng was Chesty Barry Reilly and Barry Tully.
The red card incident was not the correct decision for it was a 50 50 ball both players committed to getting the ball if he was going to dish out a card he could have given a yellow or a black this way at least there would still have been 15 a side and we the neutrals might have been able to see if Canavan has made any improvement with the gaels from my point of view he has not. Ref was poor in my opinion also.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 14/10/2014 11:29:07    1663447

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Mowbar ... Canavans just won a co championship. Whether that's classed as improvement is irrelevant. Wasn't it Niall Lynchs 2nd year in charge of Kingscourt? I don't see you questioning their improvement? Why you so worried about the gaels improvement. . Maybe you should concentrate on your own club instead of commenting on a county final with blinkers on. There were plenty of incidents where both teams were wrong but you fail to mention them. Watch the video again.

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 14/10/2014 12:10:46    1663466

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Mowbar its clear to see canavan has made improvement for one simple reason they are now county champions last year they werent

Breffni81 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 14/10/2014 12:28:38    1663474

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cavanman47
County: Cavan
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I was at the game as a neutral.

A couple of people here saying it was a good game - it wasn't!! It was a shocking game of football in terms of quality and the fact that it was close throughout was the only thing it really had going for it.

The sending off was probably justified, the Kingscourt player was never getting to the ball and he knew it.

Congratulations to Cavan Gaels.

I really dont know what game you were at - obviously not the same as the rest of us - in what way was it a shocking game ? you talk about lack of quality what about all the points scored ( 31 in all ) - some super scores from both sides including an exhibition of freetaking from Barry Reilly - some great foot-passing and hard tackling everything that a game needs - best county final i ve seen in years. Well done to both sides .

tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts: 147 - 14/10/2014 13:42:51    1663519

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Mowbar. Why is there so much hatred towards Cavan Gaels. Ballinagh won last year and everyone congratulated them including the gaels people. There was none of this negativity slagging them off writing them of before Ulster ect.. The Gaels last won the title in 2011. Only seven of the team that started in 2011 started on Sunday. You ask has Canavan improved them? He has built a new team in less than a year and has won the County Title. I think that answers that question.
Try and at least acknowledge the best team won the Championship this year -like every year.

evano11 (Cavan) - Posts: 265 - 14/10/2014 13:51:31    1663524

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Have to say as a neutral it was a classic close contest. Both teams committed and some fine scores from both sides who tried to play football. A lot of other teams around the county should look at the passion and skill shown on the day and try to follow in example rather than lambaste the Gaels including my own club Killygary. The Gaels never panicked and were deserving winners on the day. Their goal was never threatened unlike Kingscourts especially in the second half when their goalie pulled of save of the season. The Gaels look to have a fine new crop of players coming up and the older ones are still producing the goods so they will be competing for county championships for the foreseeable future. I wish them all the best in Ulster. Would be great for the county to win an Ulster Club before the county championship starts and they have the style to do it! Eyeball

eyeball (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 14/10/2014 14:45:42    1663557

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14/10/2014 13:51:31
evano11
County: Cavan
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Mowbar. Why is there so much hatred towards Cavan Gaels. Ballinagh won last year and everyone congratulated them including the gaels people. There was none of this negativity slagging them off writing them of before Ulster ect.. The Gaels last won the title in 2011. Only seven of the team that started in 2011 started on Sunday. You ask has Canavan improved them? He has built a new team in less than a year and has won the County Title. I think that answers that question.
Try and at least acknowledge the best team won the Championship this year -like every year.

With the pick of players that they have any manager worth his salt should have won the county title with the Gaels this year.

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 304 - 14/10/2014 14:56:32    1663563

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IamADragon
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evano11
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With the pick of players that they have any manager worth his salt should have won the county title with the Gaels this year.


The parish in Cavan town has three senior clubs and one intermediate club. The main provider of players to Cavan Gaels is Farnham School out beside the hospital. St Felims school in the town would have as many playing for Drumalee as the Gaels. Alot of the childern of parents who played for the Gaels are playing for the other three clubs.

evano11 (Cavan) - Posts: 265 - 14/10/2014 16:18:58    1663609

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Dublin have a big pick but they didn't win the all ireland did they? Ballinagh have one of the smallest picks and they won the championship last year. USA have a big pick but they didn't win the World Cup did they? So your argument of big picks don't wash!

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 14/10/2014 16:57:27    1663635

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Draw would have been a fair result and then see how both teams did without any advantages. Ref made bad decisions on both sides. How did SJ get away with kicking the ball off the goalies tee at the end of the game. Very sporting. And then got MOTM. Strange. Maybe Kingscourt should have put fresh legs on sooner and it might have made a big difference.

hammy8 (Cavan) - Posts: 13 - 14/10/2014 17:12:34    1663642

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14/10/2014 16:57:27
dirtybag

County: Cavan
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Dublin have a big pick but they didn't win the all ireland did they? Ballinagh have one of the smallest picks and they won the championship last year. USA have a big pick but they didn't win the World Cup did they? So your argument of big picks don't wash!

Of course it does, look at the subs Cavan Gaels had the other day. Martin Dunne, Paul o Connor, Declan and Kevin Meehan, Barry Fortune to name just a few, all players who have experience county football. Could any other club in Cavan afford to leave players like these on the bench? Simple answer is no. For every other senior club in Cavan, winning the championship would have been an outstanding achievement, but for the Gaels it is more or less expected. That's why they will need to do well in Ulster this year, because they themselves wont be satisfied with just a county title

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 304 - 14/10/2014 17:37:11    1663653

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Yes SJ kicked the ball of the keepers tee yes not very sporting. Didn't a Kerry forward do the same in the semi or final and not a word about it? Big deal now because it's SJ. A kingscourt forward who shall remain nameless sticking his middle finger up at The Gaels manager is really just as unsporting.so really both sides lacked class in the hear of the moment . That's football . Nobody died! Get on with it. Seemingly if SJ does anything wrong it's big news. Maybe chat about his 1-14 in 2 championship games? Could be compare that with any other forward that plays for or in Cavan this year? Now that SJs name is been mentioned.

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 14/10/2014 17:48:25    1663660

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't the semi final against Cuchulainns the fist game Johnson started for the Gaels in the championship this year?

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 304 - 14/10/2014 18:13:24    1663669

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I was at the game in Breffni on Sunday supporting Kingscourt as I am closest to them and would be more acquainted with their personnel. I thought it was a very entertaining game, full of honest endeavour, lots of skill, passion both on and off the field, sometimes the passion was too close to contravening the rules but just about stopped short of ugly T.G. . I did not see the incident that resulted in Pauric Faulkner been sent off so I cannot justifiably comment other than it was a pity it happened. I thought Kingscourt in particular played very bravely with only 14 men, Cavan Gaels played with honest endeavour and good discipline and contributed greatly to an intriguing match. The only piece of bad manners was the kicking away of the ball by Sean Johnston when young Farrelly was about to kick the ball out. S. Johnson had a reasonably good game up to that, his team were winning a fair game, pity he showed this undesirable side of his to us, m.o.match......not in my book. Finally well done Cavan Gaels on a good performance on and off the field and the best of luck in Ulster.

realisticpaddy (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 14/10/2014 20:03:01    1663721

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tenyearplan
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cavanman47
County: Cavan
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I was at the game as a neutral.

A couple of people here saying it was a good game - it wasn't!! It was a shocking game of football in terms of quality and the fact that it was close throughout was the only thing it really had going for it.

The sending off was probably justified, the Kingscourt player was never getting to the ball and he knew it.

Congratulations to Cavan Gaels.

I really dont know what game you were at - obviously not the same as the rest of us - in what way was it a shocking game ? you talk about lack of quality what about all the points scored ( 31 in all ) - some super scores from both sides including an exhibition of freetaking from Barry Reilly - some great foot-passing and hard tackling everything that a game needs - best county final i ve seen in years. Well done to both sides .



By all means you are entitled to your opinion and that's fair enough. Like I said, the fact that the game was close throughout made it quite entertaining.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that the quality of play was good and I felt it wasn't. In particular, some of the kick passing on show was very poor. I don't think it would be unfair to call it a scrappy game.
Now, I've seen scrappy games which are scrappy because tactics, good defending, etc. mean that it's difficult for a team to get into a rhythm. But I felt on Sunday, that the game was scrappy and that rhythm wasn't there due to the poor passing and decision making of both teams at times.

I really am sorry to come across so negative, because I am not one for throwing around cliches like "puke football" - I feel a team must execute the game plan which it feels gives it the best chance to win a given match. .ala Cavan under Terry Hyland.

I would applaud both teams on Sunday for the way in which they approached the game and the spirit in which it was played (apart from 1 or 2 incidents) but ultimately came away thinking the standard was below what a senior county final should be. Incidentally, I was at the game with a mate from outside the county who felt the exact same.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 15/10/2014 10:47:41    1663845

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cavanman47
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By all means you are entitled to your opinion and that's fair enough. Like I said, the fact that the game was close throughout made it quite entertaining.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that the quality of play was good and I felt it wasn't. In particular, some of the kick passing on show was very poor. I don't think it would be unfair to call it a scrappy game.
Now, I've seen scrappy games which are scrappy because tactics, good defending, etc. mean that it's difficult for a team to get into a rhythm. But I felt on Sunday, that the game was scrappy and that rhythm wasn't there due to the poor passing and decision making of both teams at times.

I really am sorry to come across so negative, because I am not one for throwing around cliches like "puke football" - I feel a team must execute the game plan which it feels gives it the best chance to win a given match. .ala Cavan under Terry Hyland.

I would applaud both teams on Sunday for the way in which they approached the game and the spirit in which it was played (apart from 1 or 2 incidents) but ultimately came away thinking the standard was below what a senior county final should be. Incidentally, I was at the game with a mate from outside the county who felt the exact same.


I think you are in the minority there cavanman47.
I have been to most Cavan finals and believe me this was a good one.(if you are comparing it to other Cavan finals... which most people are).
I haven't seen many county finals from other counties. (one leitrim , 1 longford, and a few Monaghan ones.) and it compared favouurably with those aswell.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 16/10/2014 18:20:50    1664398

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Just checking the fixtures there for a look and i see the Senior relegation final is on tonight on the 3G pitch between Redhills & Drumalee. Firstly just wondering why it is taking place on the 3G pitch, surely they could of played it in Mullahoran or somewhere? Or even in Breffni Park? Strange decision. Anyway, i will probably take a drive in to watch it as i will have a few hours to spare tonight. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on it and who might drop down to Intermediate next year? Will be a huge blow to either club as it is not as easy coming back up as Belturbet have found out!

Champion2011 (Cavan) - Posts: 230 - 17/10/2014 13:03:00    1664664

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drumalee beat redhills in the relegation playoff

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 18/10/2014 12:30:31    1664897

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What did you make of the game 'Champion2011' or did the weather put you off? The 3 goals in the 1st half proved vital for Drumalee. Redhills totally controlled the 2nd half keeping Drumalee to 2points but just couldn't catch up (aided by alot of wides near the end!)...in my opinion..

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1680 - 18/10/2014 20:02:50    1665025

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"wishfulthinkin
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What did you make of the game 'Champion2011' or did the weather put you off? The 3 goals in the 1st half proved vital for Drumalee. Redhills totally controlled the 2nd half keeping Drumalee to 2points but just couldn't catch up (aided by alot of wides near the end!)...in my opinion.."

I attended the game indeed, just getting the chance to get back on this now. Agree with you 100%, Redhills should of had at least 2 goals before Drumalee got their 1st which would of obviously made it a completely different game. 2 easy chances if i do say so myself, 1 hitting the post and the other being dragged wide. Drumalee hit a purple patch around the 15th-25th minute in the 1st half and scored 2-03 i think which proved to be the difference in the end. Redhills absolutely owned the 2nd half but only scored 6 or 7 points i think which just wasn't enough. They kicked too many wides as you pointed out but fair play to Drumalee for hanging in there and grabbing a couple of points when they did. Redhills turned it into a very physical game in the 2nd half when they sensed the game was getting away from therem, with alot of players down for treatment. But credit to Drumalee, they defended very well at times when on the ropes after Redhills made it a 1 point game. As i said will be interesting to see how they get on next year in the Intermediate Championship as it's never easy to come straight back up!

Champion2011 (Cavan) - Posts: 230 - 18/10/2014 21:34:42    1665055

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