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Replying To rahanman: "As the saying goes pressure is for tyres and all this chat about which of the Gaels or Ourselves are under the most pressure is absolute nonsense. Cavan Gaels lie in 8th position after loosing their first game so are still in place to qualify score difference will come into it and while either side are capable of taking the victory in round two a loss for either side will not put them out as they will score heavily against all but a coupe of the other sides in it. The Gaels have been the top Senior side over the last dozen or so years and it will be some time before they are anything other than Favorites to win the Oliver Plunkett cup . Reality is Castlerahan winning on Friday does not remove Cavan Gaels from the championship so in fact is a facile victory. What I do not understand is why this as a repeat of last years final and the stand out fixture in this round is not scheduled for Sunday Afternoon. Showing my age but Sunday Afternoons is when real championship football is played" In case you did not know there is an All Ireland Hurling Final on Sunday afternoon that could be the reason it is not on then.
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I am well aware that there is an All Ireland Hurling Final @15:30 on Sunday. I am also aware that with Kingspan Breffni out of action Evening Championship matches at his time of year without floodlights available is a risk. Anyone that was in Dolan Park in Virginia last Saturday and stayed for the second match between Kill & Drung will know that the last 20 minutes were played in conditions that bordered on dangerous due to overhead clouds and subsequent lack of light
rahanman (Cavan) - Posts: 127 - 15/08/2018 12:36:25
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Why can they not play some of the championship games on Thursday night.? The Ramor lacken game was at 7.45 on Sunday because it was a double header with Ballyhaise and Cornafean. mullahoran isn't suitable parking wise, it's not breffni. Plenty of other grounds. The mullahoran pitch itself didn't look in good condition.
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Is Lavey a suitable venue on a Friday evening along the main Dublin/Cavan road and the crowd will start arriving shortly after 6.30?
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Celt has gaels game in virginia?
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Replying To EastCavan: "Celt has gaels game in virginia?" It's in Lavey
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 15/08/2018 18:55:09
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Awful fixture for the match of the round, or any championship match for that matter.
MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 15/08/2018 21:04:23
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I don't understand Lavey being chosen to host this fixture. Surely a bigger and more suitable venue should of been picked. Not to mention the traffic will be ridiculous coming from Virgina at that time of a Friday evening. The stand in Lavey is no bigger than my back shed.
GAAhead2017 (Cavan) - Posts: 82 - 16/08/2018 00:07:03
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I think the vast majority of people - players and patrons alike - will agree that this Friday evening is not the optimal day for it. Failing light, no match-suitable floodlights in Lavey and the burst back from Dublin and further afield after a week's work is grossly unfair to the players on both sides. Why not have it Sunday at 1pm - game played and everybody can go home and enjoy the hurling final?
lockerocker (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 16/08/2018 08:57:31
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Would agree with most of the comments on here about the game being in Lavey on Friday night. Even the time also mean that any Dublin based players will more than like have to leave work early or take a half day I assume.
And light is starting to get scarce after 8.30pm now. And the worst of it is there is no need for with loads of other available time slots and pitches for the rest of the weekend even with the Hurling on.
How many pitches are there in the county that have lights good enough, or legal enough whatever, to hold a night game under lights? Mullagh? Mullahoran?
My predictions for the nights games
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels - Castlerahan by 1. Think the Gaels will win their last two games against whoever and scrape in to the QF's and be reinstalled as favourites but I think Castlerahan might have their number on the smaller field. I would expect a hot tempered affair Friday night with perhaps a few sending offs, and the Gaels tend to shoot themselves in the foot a bit in games like that. Good referee performance needed from young Dourneen.
Kingscourt v Lacken - Lacken by 5 - Kingscourt are unfortunately not the team they were and Lacken have far more firepower if they don't freeze.
Xlough v Cootehill . Xlough by 6.
Killygarry v Ramor . Ramor by 1, but still would see Killygarry as big challengers. I would assume a lot of planning for the c'ship was aimed at the Gaels game and there might be a bit of a come down this weekend.
Lavey v Ballinagh - Very hard to call. Ballinagh by 1.
Gowna v Shercock - Gowna easy. Shercock will probably require a change to a blanket defense or some other tactical revolution to stay up in Senior this year (which I wouldn't put past them). Massive achievement for them to win that Intermediate but well below par on man for man basis at Senior level.
On the referees, I always thought Maggie was one of the better ref's but with the level of complaint I heard from last week's game it looks like she made a bit of a hames of it.
I'm sure Maggie will learn from last week and bounce back but in general the standard of referee's are very poor at the minute.
People have complained about ref's making calls from a distance and fitness is important but very few with basic common sense required to make a split second decision. Some of the older and more unfit referees are still some of the best.
I had a look at the referee's for this weekends Senior and Junior games and rather than singling out the bad ones, I am just going to name the ones I think are good and have the qualities required and mentioned above. As referee's are probably entitles to credit for good performances as much as players rather than just abuse when they make mistakes.
Conor Dourneen
Pat Clarke
Packie Smith
Gerry Sheridan
Martin Sexton
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 16/08/2018 10:19:34
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Would agree with most of the comments on here about the game being in Lavey on Friday night. Even the time also mean that any Dublin based players will more than like have to leave work early or take a half day I assume.
And light is starting to get scarce after 8.30pm now. And the worst of it is there is no need for with loads of other available time slots and pitches for the rest of the weekend even with the Hurling on.
How many pitches are there in the county that have lights good enough, or legal enough whatever, to hold a night game under lights? Mullagh? Mullahoran?
My predictions for the nights games
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels - Castlerahan by 1. Think the Gaels will win their last two games against whoever and scrape in to the QF's and be reinstalled as favourites but I think Castlerahan might have their number on the smaller field. I would expect a hot tempered affair Friday night with perhaps a few sending offs, and the Gaels tend to shoot themselves in the foot a bit in games like that. Good referee performance needed from young Dourneen.
Kingscourt v Lacken - Lacken by 5 - Kingscourt are unfortunately not the team they were and Lacken have far more firepower if they don't freeze.
Xlough v Cootehill . Xlough by 6.
Killygarry v Ramor . Ramor by 1, but still would see Killygarry as big challengers. I would assume a lot of planning for the c'ship was aimed at the Gaels game and there might be a bit of a come down this weekend.
Lavey v Ballinagh - Very hard to call. Ballinagh by 1.
Gowna v Shercock - Gowna easy. Shercock will probably require a change to a blanket defense or some other tactical revolution to stay up in Senior this year (which I wouldn't put past them). Massive achievement for them to win that Intermediate but well below par on man for man basis at Senior level.
On the referees, I always thought Maggie was one of the better ref's but with the level of complaint I heard from last week's game it looks like she made a bit of a hames of it.
I'm sure Maggie will learn from last week and bounce back but in general the standard of referee's are very poor at the minute.
People have complained about ref's making calls from a distance and fitness is important but very few with basic common sense required to make a split second decision. Some of the older and more unfit referees are still some of the best.
I had a look at the referee's for this weekends Senior and Junior games and rather than singling out the bad ones, I am just going to name the ones I think are good and have the qualities required and mentioned above. As referee's are probably entitles to credit for good performances as much as players rather than just abuse when they make mistakes.
Conor Dourneen
Pat Clarke
Packie Smith
Gerry Sheridan
Martin Sexton" pat clarke????
5seniormedals (Cavan) - Posts: 58 - 16/08/2018 10:53:19
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Cavan Gaels to beat a depleted Castlerahan team.
Killygarry to beat a depleted Ramor team.
Gowna
Kingscourt
Ballinagh
Crosserlough
Pat the Dandy them names at end? Tongue in cheek?
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 16/08/2018 10:55:36
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Pat gets a raw deal about his skills I feel. I think in general he is quite consistent for both teams and not influenced into rash decisions by shouting from players or fans like others are.
Of course he makes mistakes like everyone else but some refs are totally controlled by the reactions of the crowd and players and lose control of games and strong personalities and characters like Pat are required.
Good to see him get rewarded with a Senior game and obviously others in the County Board must share my opinion as there are some ref's that bad they are not given Senior or even intermediate games.
Jimmy Galligan from Lacken is another good common sense referee if he's still on the go, along with Kieran McCarville, and the great Brian Crowe.
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Pat gets a raw deal about his skills I feel. I think in general he is quite consistent for both teams and not influenced into rash decisions by shouting from players or fans like others are.
Of course he makes mistakes like everyone else but some refs are totally controlled by the reactions of the crowd and players and lose control of games and strong personalities and characters like Pat are required.
Good to see him get rewarded with a Senior game and obviously others in the County Board must share my opinion as there are some ref's that bad they are not given Senior or even intermediate games.
Jimmy Galligan from Lacken is another good common sense referee if he's still on the go, along with Kieran McCarville, and the great Brian Crowe." What planet do you live on
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 16/08/2018 12:23:35
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Would agree with most of the comments on here about the game being in Lavey on Friday night. Even the time also mean that any Dublin based players will more than like have to leave work early or take a half day I assume.
And light is starting to get scarce after 8.30pm now. And the worst of it is there is no need for with loads of other available time slots and pitches for the rest of the weekend even with the Hurling on.
How many pitches are there in the county that have lights good enough, or legal enough whatever, to hold a night game under lights? Mullagh? Mullahoran?
My predictions for the nights games
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels - Castlerahan by 1. Think the Gaels will win their last two games against whoever and scrape in to the QF's and be reinstalled as favourites but I think Castlerahan might have their number on the smaller field. I would expect a hot tempered affair Friday night with perhaps a few sending offs, and the Gaels tend to shoot themselves in the foot a bit in games like that. Good referee performance needed from young Dourneen.
Kingscourt v Lacken - Lacken by 5 - Kingscourt are unfortunately not the team they were and Lacken have far more firepower if they don't freeze.
Xlough v Cootehill . Xlough by 6.
Killygarry v Ramor . Ramor by 1, but still would see Killygarry as big challengers. I would assume a lot of planning for the c'ship was aimed at the Gaels game and there might be a bit of a come down this weekend.
Lavey v Ballinagh - Very hard to call. Ballinagh by 1.
Gowna v Shercock - Gowna easy. Shercock will probably require a change to a blanket defense or some other tactical revolution to stay up in Senior this year (which I wouldn't put past them). Massive achievement for them to win that Intermediate but well below par on man for man basis at Senior level.
On the referees, I always thought Maggie was one of the better ref's but with the level of complaint I heard from last week's game it looks like she made a bit of a hames of it.
I'm sure Maggie will learn from last week and bounce back but in general the standard of referee's are very poor at the minute.
People have complained about ref's making calls from a distance and fitness is important but very few with basic common sense required to make a split second decision. Some of the older and more unfit referees are still some of the best.
I had a look at the referee's for this weekends Senior and Junior games and rather than singling out the bad ones, I am just going to name the ones I think are good and have the qualities required and mentioned above. As referee's are probably entitles to credit for good performances as much as players rather than just abuse when they make mistakes.
Conor Dourneen
Pat Clarke
Packie Smith
Gerry Sheridan
Martin Sexton" I suppose if Maggie started red carding players that make verbal comments about her that are of a derogatory manner I feel it would soon stop this behavior. Maggie is a good referee so is Martin Sexton not sure there are that many more out there. There is no question about Brian Crowe one of the best if not the best there was in the country.
Maggie will do fine as Croke Park appreciate her ability as a good referee.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 16/08/2018 13:02:39
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PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 16/08/2018 13:50:13
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Maggie is one of the better referees in the county in my opinion - consistent for both sides and that goes a long way. Plays by the rules which you can't complain about too much. If you don't like it, then obey the rules.
dangordon (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 16/08/2018 13:52:40
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Replying To FoolsGold: "Why can they not play some of the championship games on Thursday night.? The Ramor lacken game was at 7.45 on Sunday because it was a double header with Ballyhaise and Cornafean. mullahoran isn't suitable parking wise, it's not breffni. Plenty of other grounds. The mullahoran pitch itself didn't look in good condition." Mullahoran pitch is in poor shape, but it's getting completely done up and relaid as part of those grants that went round a while ago. That double header were the last games to be held there before it's done. Needs to be done before the end of the year to avail of that grant. It's a good set-up with floodlights and facilities. Parking is grand there now too (maybe a double header was stretching it), as even the road outside is not the main one when it was bypassed a few years back. When the pitch is done, it'll be a great facility. Many neutral games are held there and it's well regarded
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2382 - 16/08/2018 14:38:34
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "That's a fairly vague statement?" Unfortunately they won't let me post what I want to post about Pat Clarke
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 16/08/2018 16:38:08
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When are the Gaels going to not be touched?
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 17/08/2018 20:48:41
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