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Replying To mystic meg:  "Paul O' Connor? ??Where you at the county final or the Ulster club final? Not near good enough for county football in my opinion. The ONLY Cavan Gaels player id have in there is Kevin Meehan. The rest of the names have been tried and tested."
OK so. Terry will have to tell Mattie to leave him out so. Apparently thats how the squad was picked last year.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1250 - 29/11/2017 14:49:19    2064021

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Replying To theDagger1986:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in.
the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner."
How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4496 - 29/11/2017 15:06:33    2064027

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Replying To seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
So are you saying we are better off bringing in worse players from other clubs? As is the case in there at moment.

theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 158 - 29/11/2017 16:39:05    2064038

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Replying To seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at.

YOUWONTCODME (Cavan) - Posts: 125 - 29/11/2017 16:45:39    2064042

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Replying To YOUWONTCODME:  "
Replying To seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at."
So are you saying we are better off bringing in worse players from other clubs? As is the case in there at moment.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 16:39:05
YOUWONTCODME:

I have not named the players, your gael friends have said that the conditions don't suit your team my reply is that by the time the weather is suitable for them we would be gone from all competitions isn't that what they are saying especially tomsmith.

Regarding the county team being beat by Slaughtneill I have no doubt you are correct but let's hope now that the new manager is going to be picking his own team we might improve to compete. Sadly for the manager he has to pick from whats available to him for as it stands he has his hands full to get a quality panel together.
I hope that he will show his metal and bring player's that want to play first and foremost and to establish a team of players that will play attacking football and not the puke stuff thats been dished out by many counties.
One other thing I hope to god he stops listening to the managers on here and on the stand that know it all but are found wanting when the s**t hits the fan.
Good luck to him and his panel thats all I can say to help him.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4496 - 29/11/2017 18:32:25    2064051

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Replying To YOUWONTCODME:  "
Replying To seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at."
Slaughtneill would beat any division 4 teams and tighten a couple division 3 teams and thats a fact!

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 30/11/2017 11:34:11    2064099

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Replying To seanorinn:  "Paul o Connor Nial Murray Stephen Murray Seanie Johnston Kevin Meehan Barry Fortune Paul Graham Maloney Derham. Are all good enough to be on the panel given their displays all year through the championship
Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - 28/11/2017 15:24:07 2063

Paul O'Connor get's injured very easy but has been part of the panel despite him spending most of his time recovering. Robert Maloney Durham left the panel to look after his education future and from what I hear has been called to the Barr and is heading for England I alway's said he was an honest player so we agree with him. Niall Murray like Paul O'Connor suffers a lot with injury as does his brother can we afford to carry all these injured players. Not too sure which of the Meehans Kevin is one has discipline issues the other is a very nice tidy player you can depend on. Seanie one cannot question his ability as a player can they. You did not mention Flynn surprised at that for he is a far better goalie than Cassidy. I cannot really comment on others as I am recovering from a major operation and missed all games since the 3rd of September."
"Niall Murray like Paul O'Connor suffers a lot with injury as does his brother can we afford to carry all these injured players. Not too sure which of the Meehans Kevin is one has discipline issues the other is a very nice tidy player you can depend on"

utter nonsense here saying "we can't carry these injured players" If players are injured they can still be part of the extended panel while going through their 'return to play' program's. If you don't can't tell the Meehans apart I really do wonder about your valadtion on your points been made! One doesn't have a discipline problem but more so players the game not he edge.

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 30/11/2017 11:42:38    2064101

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Replying To theham:  ""Niall Murray like Paul O'Connor suffers a lot with injury as does his brother can we afford to carry all these injured players. Not too sure which of the Meehans Kevin is one has discipline issues the other is a very nice tidy player you can depend on"

utter nonsense here saying "we can't carry these injured players" If players are injured they can still be part of the extended panel while going through their 'return to play' program's. If you don't can't tell the Meehans apart I really do wonder about your valadtion on your points been made! One doesn't have a discipline problem but more so players the game not he edge."
yes Declan and Kevin both were in with the county set up I can tell them apart visually for sure but getting confused with their names is part of getting old.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4496 - 30/11/2017 12:08:08    2064106

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Replying To theham:  "
Replying To YOUWONTCODME:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at."
Slaughtneill would beat any division 4 teams and tighten a couple division 3 teams and thats a fact!"]What a post.

You can assure us that Slaughtneill would beat Cavan in the McKenna Cup. Let's hope they don't draw them so. Great to know the result in advance of a game that will never take place.

The implication is that only people that played for a Top 3 club in Cavan can post on this thread. Probably best to say no more about that.

And it's also a fact (my favourite word on hoganstand) that Slaughtneill would beat any Division 4 team and tighten a couple of division 3 teams. Could you tell me how exactly a team would tighten another one and which division 3 teams that Slaughtneill would do this to? Since we're dealing in facts.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 30/11/2017 13:22:33    2064113

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Derry would be a nice handy Division 3 team for Slaughtneil to beat. Guess everyone involved in Derry football is wrong too.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 30/11/2017 14:59:13    2064123

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Replying To Skelling:  "
Replying To theham:  "[quote=YOUWONTCODME:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at."
Slaughtneill would beat any division 4 teams and tighten a couple division 3 teams and thats a fact!"]What a post.

You can assure us that Slaughtneill would beat Cavan in the McKenna Cup. Let's hope they don't draw them so. Great to know the result in advance of a game that will never take place.

The implication is that only people that played for a Top 3 club in Cavan can post on this thread. Probably best to say no more about that.

And it's also a fact (my favourite word on hoganstand) that Slaughtneill would beat any Division 4 team and tighten a couple of division 3 teams. Could you tell me how exactly a team would tighten another one and which division 3 teams that Slaughtneill would do this to? Since we're dealing in facts."]Skellilg from away over in the USA

Tomsmith here from Cavan Town the home of Cavan Gaels, Cavans top teams for a many years.

I don't understand the long winded point that you are making about Slaughneil, But if you are saying that Cavan Gaels were poor on the day I feel not. Good we light gausens will not play well on an auld wet day in the end of November. That sort of weather is suitable for a big strong mobile team and the Gaels are too nice footballers to shine in this sort of weather. Also a few spllt decisions went against us.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3215 - 30/11/2017 15:27:57    2064130

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tomsmith, for a lad that thinks he's clever you sure don't act like it sometimes.

My post was a reply to theham's post which dabbled in clairvoyancy. I gave no opinion on the Gaels, good or bad. I'm not sure how there was confusion, although the quote function did go a bit funny.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 30/11/2017 17:27:19    2064148

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Replying To Hardtimes:  "Derry would be a nice handy Division 3 team for Slaughtneil to beat. Guess everyone involved in Derry football is wrong too."
Did I say Slaughtneill would beat all division 3 teams? No....
Tighten a couple I said

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 30/11/2017 17:52:40    2064155

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Replying To Skelling:  "
Replying To theham:  "[quote=YOUWONTCODME:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at."
Slaughtneill would beat any division 4 teams and tighten a couple division 3 teams and thats a fact!"]What a post.

You can assure us that Slaughtneill would beat Cavan in the McKenna Cup. Let's hope they don't draw them so. Great to know the result in advance of a game that will never take place.

The implication is that only people that played for a Top 3 club in Cavan can post on this thread. Probably best to say no more about that.

And it's also a fact (my favourite word on hoganstand) that Slaughtneill would beat any Division 4 team and tighten a couple of division 3 teams. Could you tell me how exactly a team would tighten another one and which division 3 teams that Slaughtneill would do this to? Since we're dealing in facts."]its a comparison on how good of a team they are and would be compettitve at that level!

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 30/11/2017 17:56:47    2064157

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Replying To tomsmith:  "
Replying To Skelling:  "[quote=theham:  "[quote=YOUWONTCODME:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at."
Slaughtneill would beat any division 4 teams and tighten a couple division 3 teams and thats a fact!"]What a post.

You can assure us that Slaughtneill would beat Cavan in the McKenna Cup. Let's hope they don't draw them so. Great to know the result in advance of a game that will never take place.

The implication is that only people that played for a Top 3 club in Cavan can post on this thread. Probably best to say no more about that.

And it's also a fact (my favourite word on hoganstand) that Slaughtneill would beat any Division 4 team and tighten a couple of division 3 teams. Could you tell me how exactly a team would tighten another one and which division 3 teams that Slaughtneill would do this to? Since we're dealing in facts."]Skellilg from away over in the USA

Tomsmith here from Cavan Town the home of Cavan Gaels, Cavans top teams for a many years.

I don't understand the long winded point that you are making about Slaughneil, But if you are saying that Cavan Gaels were poor on the day I feel not. Good we light gausens will not play well on an auld wet day in the end of November. That sort of weather is suitable for a big strong mobile team and the Gaels are too nice footballers to shine in this sort of weather. Also a few spllt decisions went against us."]Tom you are not making sense at all. Slaughtneill are a different animal compared to the Gaels. I was at the game and the playing conditions were fine for both teams!
hopefully the gaels will digest the result, build/learn from the experience. Slaughtneill are a well hardened team with quality, pace, power and strength in key positions.
The gaels ran them to a point 3 years ago and were unlucky not to get a draw and from then Slaughtneill have kicked on but the Gaels went back a level for a couple of years but have reappeared to be a force in Cavan again under Jason. With that hopefully they can improve over the next 1-2 years and eventually compete at the top table. You would think that is the clubs ambition and kudos to them for it.

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 30/11/2017 18:11:54    2064159

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Replying To theham:  "Did I say Slaughtneill would beat all division 3 teams? No....
Tighten a couple I said"
Cavan are Division 2 and you assured us they'd beat us. People are losing the run of themselves a bit talking up Slaughtneil and saying things like the Gaels team would beat the county team. Gaels are a good club team with nice footballers but not many are actually county standard. They came up against a very good club team with 3 or 4 exceptional players of a high county standard who completely ran through them. They did that because there was a complete power/pace mismatch up the middle. Swap those 3 or 4 players to the Gaels team and the result would be reversed. Put Slaughtneil up against a county team and they would not find it as easy to run through a team.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 30/11/2017 21:19:36    2064170

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Replying To theham:  "
Replying To tomsmith:  "[quote=Skelling:  "[quote=theham:  "[quote=YOUWONTCODME:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "How can you say that Meehan is the only player you'd bring in. the state of the county panel at the minute, there is actually 7 or 8 lads on it that wouldn't get playing for the Gaels and that is not an exaggeration by any manner.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - 29/11/2017 11:26:27

You are getting carried away for sure for if as stated above the soft ground does not suit them BECAUSE they are so light whats the point because by the time the weather suits them the McKenna Cup the league and the Ulster championship would be over as well as first stages of the All Ireland so there is no point bringing any of them in because of what was stated by other posters."
If Slaughtneill played Cavan in the McKenna cup I can assure you that they would beat them.

A lot of people on posting here who have never played for a top 3 club in Cavan never mind in Ulster.

Also people have to start realising that Cavan are only an average team. Too much expectation for the level we are currently at."
Slaughtneill would beat any division 4 teams and tighten a couple division 3 teams and thats a fact!"]What a post.

You can assure us that Slaughtneill would beat Cavan in the McKenna Cup. Let's hope they don't draw them so. Great to know the result in advance of a game that will never take place.

The implication is that only people that played for a Top 3 club in Cavan can post on this thread. Probably best to say no more about that.

And it's also a fact (my favourite word on hoganstand) that Slaughtneill would beat any Division 4 team and tighten a couple of division 3 teams. Could you tell me how exactly a team would tighten another one and which division 3 teams that Slaughtneill would do this to? Since we're dealing in facts."]Skellilg from away over in the USA

Tomsmith here from Cavan Town the home of Cavan Gaels, Cavans top teams for a many years.

I don't understand the long winded point that you are making about Slaughneil, But if you are saying that Cavan Gaels were poor on the day I feel not. Good we light gausens will not play well on an auld wet day in the end of November. That sort of weather is suitable for a big strong mobile team and the Gaels are too nice footballers to shine in this sort of weather. Also a few spllt decisions went against us."]Tom you are not making sense at all. Slaughtneill are a different animal compared to the Gaels. I was at the game and the playing conditions were fine for both teams!
hopefully the gaels will digest the result, build/learn from the experience. Slaughtneill are a well hardened team with quality, pace, power and strength in key positions.
The gaels ran them to a point 3 years ago and were unlucky not to get a draw and from then Slaughtneill have kicked on but the Gaels went back a level for a couple of years but have reappeared to be a force in Cavan again under Jason. With that hopefully they can improve over the next 1-2 years and eventually compete at the top table. You would think that is the clubs ambition and kudos to them for it."]""""""""""""""""""""" The Ham
Tomsmith here
While I agree with you that Slaughneil is a big mobile strong team, I feel that on a summers day the Gaels would take them . the Gaels are a lovely light clean footballing team . No suited to playing in the end on November. If you looked at the programme the Gaels were a far lighter team and not near as strong at the Derrymen. I don't agree that the underfoot conditions were not a factor. The Gaels will be back again and I feel that this team has our greatest chance of an Ulster final

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3215 - 30/11/2017 21:39:55    2064172

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Replying To Hardtimes:  "Cavan are Division 2 and you assured us they'd beat us. People are losing the run of themselves a bit talking up Slaughtneil and saying things like the Gaels team would beat the county team. Gaels are a good club team with nice footballers but not many are actually county standard. They came up against a very good club team with 3 or 4 exceptional players of a high county standard who completely ran through them. They did that because there was a complete power/pace mismatch up the middle. Swap those 3 or 4 players to the Gaels team and the result would be reversed. Put Slaughtneil up against a county team and they would not find it as easy to run through a team."
Cavan are Division 2 and you assured us they'd beat us.

Can you please show me where I said the above? again you are making up stuff

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 01/12/2017 14:19:35    2064223

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Replying To theham:  "Cavan are Division 2 and you assured us they'd beat us.

Can you please show me where I said the above? again you are making up stuff"
You can go find it yourself. It's on this very page. I'm not surprised you don't want to stand by some of the nonsense you're writing.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 01/12/2017 15:30:28    2064228

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The Ham Tomsmith here While I agree with you that Slaughneil is a big mobile strong team, I feel that on a summers day the Gaels would take them . the Gaels are a lovely light clean footballing team . No suited to playing in the end on November. If you looked at the programme the Gaels were a far lighter team and not near as strong at the Derrymen. I don't agree that the underfoot conditions were not a factor. The Gaels will be back again and I feel that this team has our greatest chance of an Ulster final

tomsmith (Cavan) - 30/11/2017 21:39:55 2064172

If as you say, and you seem be the expert on the Gaels, that they can't play in November due to being light and underfoot conditions not suiting them and they'd be better on a summers day, then how do you expect them, in the wet and winds of November, to win an Ulster Club Title?

aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 222 - 07/12/2017 18:17:08    2064630

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