Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
As an Eire Og man, I'll not rise to Tafkan's myopic bate.
Yes, we have problems, what club doesn't? This certainly isn't the forum to discuss them.
Tafkan will be the first one on here to complain about others putting petty club rivalries ahead of the county, yet here he is sticking in the boot at what is clearly a low ebb for us. Some might call that hypocrisy.
Smokeless Red , 02/09/2010 at 21:34

Intermediate football
i reckon a st andrews and myshall final
The.Insider , 02/09/2010 at 20:45

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
TAFKANO1FAN

Well said a very true comment
The.Insider , 02/09/2010 at 20:40

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
TAFKANO1FAN
"cannot even beat ballon".
They were going well in the league and ballon bet them there as well. U21s was won in myshall and fenagh, all of the last six apart from arguably tinryland are country teams. Maybe the town teams have just lost it, as they play with no heart or pride. Ballon bet them cause they showed resiliance of the day, not because eire og were bad. Old leighlan bet them the exact same way.
changychangy , 02/09/2010 at 17:12

Carlow Minor Camogie team
Best of luck to them. Great year underage the Camogie U16 and the U16 hurlers last Saturday.
hurlingguru , 02/09/2010 at 17:09

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
I would agree with a lot of the points being made by Tafka here. And I don't think this is a case of kicking when they are down, many of these are persistent issues. Their conduct and dodgy demeanour has been ongoing over the past few years but has certainly come to a head at present.
Taking the points raised in order;
1) This is true, in fact the argument of 12 players on B Team actually backs this up. The county could not entice Eire Og players to wear the jersey so they then felt that the Eire Og manager should be placed in charge of the county team to see if that would do the trick. This lead to the 12 player team.
2)Not sure what the argument here is???? Tafka?????
3)Whether you believe this or not, the graph does go in different directions whether related or not. Coincidence?
4)True to a point. They have no Quirke, Nevin or Carpenter, thats for sure
5)True again. In fact this must still rankle in O'Hanrahans. Majority of clubs felt the same about this, but Eire Og got their way. You'd think they could produce some footballers themselves from the 200 kids every saturday morning rather than poaching their rivals best prospects.
MOH , 02/09/2010 at 14:38

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an fhrainc you must be jokin or you must be from ballon and hugely envious of how good your neighbouring rivals are doing at this moment of time. to say kilbride have a bigger pick than ballon is just stupid! ballon has become a big village with many housing estates and also it has another village rathoe in its parish, how can you make out that klilbride have a bigger pick. kilbride dont have an underage team with only a handful of players come true the burrin ranger ranks once every blue moon!!! every player that plays with kilbride lives in the area, so it doesn matter if they are ORIGINALLY from antrim, tullow or bunclody.. PS no1 from myshall plays with kilbride, kilbride footballers hurl with myshall!! the pal player you are talkin was living in the kilbride area while playing pal but transferred to kilbride to play senior football!
frogspan , 02/09/2010 at 13:55

Carlow Minor Camogie team
Would like to wish Carlow's minor comogie team the best of luck this Saturday 4th Sept. in the All Ireland C Final against Armagh. In the group stages they have beaten , Louth, Westmeath, Kildare & Meath. In the semi-final they beat Cavan even though they were missing 6 of their starting team
jacksy , 02/09/2010 at 13:09

Intermediate football
ITSCHOLER I am not sure but maybe whats going on is that you are not reading the paper right I think you will find Clonmore gave B/town the walk over. Surly now that B/town are out of the hurling they will consecrate on the football hard to see anyone stopping them.
Blue & White , 02/09/2010 at 12:48

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Old Leighlin also have a very small pick. Now I any sure it would be a help to have a bigger population but there are more important things, If having a bigger pick was all that was to winning wont tullow,B/town,Blues and eire og win everything
Blue & White , 02/09/2010 at 12:40

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I see Kilbride are claiming to be 'only a crossroads club' on the paper. getting the sympathy vote as they can hardly pull a team together. this crossroads must be 10 times the size of the red cow. bunclody men, tullow men, pal men, myshall men and antrim men. ballon have a smaller pick but they dont complain. kilbride/rest of the world will be hard bet
anFhrainc , 02/09/2010 at 10:13

Intermediate football
lads just after been looking at results page see st.andrews down to give walkover wats going on there are thay still in champ or are they throewn out
ITSCHOLAR , 01/09/2010 at 21:58

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
wel 12 players from the 1 club on a county team is an absolute disgrace im afraid for a county team

i suppose the point about arrogance is proved from footballgreat here, good man yourself

and sure its only history anyway, cant really see eire og winning any leinsters or all irelands in the near future so im afraid they are just as average as anyone else in the county at the moment, at all levels.

apart from that u16 team though, supposedly a super team
wildrover , 01/09/2010 at 21:36

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
Tafkano1fan...

Eire og have de best history in carlow no1 is near them.. 1 bad year and yu are on dere baks?? One bad incident and yu are on dere baks?? As sum1 said eire og had 12 players on the b all ireland winnin team!! Everyone hates them because they have such a good history.. JEALOUSY is all tat is i'm afraid..
footballgreat , 01/09/2010 at 21:04

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
TAFKANO1FAN

What you mean they cant even beat ballon? Look back at the championship this year and name a team ballon didn't put it up to
langer103 , 01/09/2010 at 17:56

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
Having small players has always been a problem throughout the county, not just eire og.
They are not the only club who s players don t commit fuly to a full career withe carlow.
Carlows only all ireland(B) in 1994 consisted of 12 Eire Og players so we can t say they did not contribute to one of the few promising era s of carlow football.
Agreed players transferring seems to be a problem throughout the Carlow area but i think its reasonable that Graiguculen play in Laois, afterall thats the county they are from.

Eire og have made outward transfers over the years.I did countty trials with a guy called Bryan McDonald. I think he transferrred from eire og to o Hanrahans. Have ny heard nout him since, wonder was he worth poaching?
Bimb , 01/09/2010 at 17:56

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
wil u please get real!this is the most ridiculous topic i have ever heard of because a club is succesfull and has one bad year its all talk of their demise and fall!no one team can play at the highest standard all the time!how long did it take for pal to win their senior tiltle a couple of years ago?50 years and they slumped again but they will come back with their underage talent!Eire og made the biggest contribution of players to the u-21 and senior county set up and then you say their the enemy of carlow football when clubs such as palatine dont send in any players and players dont want to go in because they have been stung by bad managers and bad set ups and do not wish to have the same thing happen again!it is simple for eire og's bad year they are in a building process as lads are moving on and they also missedthe lads who were gone away badly!To say that eire og is the enemy of the county is ludicrous and just nonsense.We will see who is the next carlow team to win a leinster crown i would be genuinely surprised if it wasnt eire og,the most succesful team of the county and the club that put carlow on the map as regards football
1884 , 01/09/2010 at 17:09

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
Ah now thats all a bit over the top - to say Carlows fortunes have deteriorated over the past 50 years in line with EO's progression is a rediuculous statement to make.
As regards most peoples from outside the county impression of football in carlow it starts and ends with EO - the county team and most other clubs carry zero respect or weight anywhere outside the county and EO have produced some brilliant footballers in their time.
To say their style does not fit the carlow style of football is a strange statement as I didnt realise Carlow had a style of football - was the carlow or EO style on display against Wicklow this year or during the league ??
I have to say however that there is a few players in the EO set up that would be better to be given the road as the problems they bring more than outweigh their limited footballing ability - I think we all know who they are and its possible a year like this year is the wake up call they need
Carlows footballing problems dont begin or end with EO - MLR and OL last week - Score line would suggest it was an u-10 game and not 2 serios title contenders but maybe thats the real carlow style of football
ballwatcher , 01/09/2010 at 16:31

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
im just going to take a few quotes from what you have just said

"enemy of the county" (you have only copped that now? nobody minds who wins the carlow SFC now that the YIS are gone)

"During their dominant period in Leinster in the 1990's, they showed an arrogance beyond belief, treating the Carlow county Board and County Teams as being beneath the all-mighty Eire Og." (thats no different today than it was back then)

"Their habit of poaching players from other clubs" (very true il give you that one, but tinryland at underage are no angels for that either)
wildrover , 01/09/2010 at 14:31

Eire Og and their effects on Carlow GAA
This is a topic which I believe is ripe to be discussed. Are Eire Og a beneficial or a malignant influence on Carlow GAA? Their behaviour over the last few years means it's probably time to discuss it.
I personally believe that the element which has come to the fore in Teach Asca was there all along but it was neutered by the fact that they won almost everything from 1960-1997. Then, O'Hanrahan's came storming up in the town and other clubs like Palatine, then Tinryland strengthened. And, even Graiguecullen (who ridiculously play in another county) have been taking players from Eire Og - their star minor Daryl Hayden having made the switch. So why have Eire Og declined? between 1960 and 1997, they won I think 20Th Carlow titles, which is over half and they won 5 Leinsters and played in two All-Ireland final's. Since then, they have slipped into the same level as Rathvilly, The Blues, Palatine, Old Leighlin, Kildavin and Tinryland and now slipped to the stage where they cannot even beat Ballon.
So why has this happened to the club? Why have they become a name that scares parents from sending their kids to them and the laughing stock of the county?
I believe there are a number of reasons.

1. During their dominant period in Leinster in the 1990's, they showed an arrogance beyond belief, treating the Carlow county Board and County Teams as being beneath the all-mighty Eire Og.
2. They play a style of football which has always contradicted Carlow's own style. A short game, involving fast players of limited physical presence.
3. If you drew a graph of their progress since their 1956 foundation and Carlow's county fortunes since, the two would go in opposite directions.
4. I cannot name one Eire Og man who I would consider to have been a consistently great county players over a career span. They come and they go.
5. Their habit of poaching players from other clubs. In 2007, Carlow reached the Leinster MFC final. Eire Og's reaction? Poach O'Hanrahan's two panel members. Other clubs reactions? Celebrate the achievement.
6. Their lack of discipline. Their inter-county corner forward has just gotten a 96-week ban according to the Carlow People for lifting his head to a linesman. The club did not do the decent thing and suspend him too. They failed to take moral leadership.

With a pick of half the county and an arrogance that suggests world-beaters, but with a recent record as poor as any clubs, Eire Og have become a parody of themselves. The club is sick, and rotten from top to bottom. Maybe it's true, that as a wise GAA man from Tinryland told me.. Eire Og are the enemy of Carlow football?

Anyone have other or similar thoughts on this?
TAFKANO1FAN , 01/09/2010 at 10:38