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omahant (USA) - Posts: 2640 - 12/05/2024 17:29:48 2544314 Link 0 |
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The GAA tend to make one step changes. What about the one step changes that might improve the current structure? The hurling league for example is bringing in five divisions of 7.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7911 - 12/05/2024 19:15:27 2544346 Link 0 |
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Jarlath Burns was interviewed on the BBC today as was saying he's not planning on any tinkering with the championship on his watch.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7911 - 12/05/2024 21:28:29 2544383 Link 0 |
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Munster (10) + (7) / 2 = 13.5"]Something novel, fair play! Starting with 22 teams in AIC Tier 1 (Prov 8 + League 14), perhaps Div 4 Champ could get that 22nd seed, ahead of Div 3 bottom 3? Maybe ok as is - but I wonder instead of Prov Avg of all counties in a Prov (which helps poor counties benefit from the boost of one strong member, e.g. Dublin or Kerry, and vice versa), maybe just give byes to the higher '2 of 4' actual team rankings based on the league in Rds 1, 2 & QFs? Just crossed my mind - if all 4 RUs finished high in the league, maybe all should avoid Rd 1 - how would you feal with that?"]obviously subject to tweaks, don't feel strongly about starting teams in Tier 1, but this gives round numbers and even draw. Consideration must be given to Div 3/4 teams making provincial finals which they will regularly in Munster, Connacht, and Leinster. This would be the one circumstance I would suggest highest-ranking league team(s) could receive bye due to uneven numbers in a draw, but note the highest ranked Round 1 team is likely to be the highest ranked Round 2 team also. I understand your final point, but this is not the objective of the formatting. What must be achieved (in the scenario that provincial championships are protected) is greater balance between provinces, meaning that winning the strongest or toughest province must be more of an advantage than winning the weakest province. To clarify, as I notice you wrote Prov Avg above, weighted averages shall not be used to seed provinces as the purpose is to create a more even route to the final. Fixture balancing must be considered to this point. Obviously this system would mean that Leinster and Ulster will on average have better seedings, and therefore finalists play one less match than Connacht/Munster counterparts, but they are guaranteed to play at least one more match to get to that final. It also must be highlighted that the system where Munster have their semi-finals seeded means that the seedings and All-Ireland group stages are essentially gamed at present. Kerry and Clare, as Munster Finalists, will next year be only one game away from being Seed 1 and Seed 2 next year, and of the 4 teams that they could play to reach that round, 3 are Division 4 and one is Division 2. Munster may as well seed Kerry into the final again at this point like in 1980, when they won the All-Ireland playing three matches. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 398 - 13/05/2024 13:40:24 2544503 Link 0 |
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Saw that. And they certainly wouldn't be looking at some of the absolute crazy chaos stuff being mentioned here. When you're explaining with huge bodies of text and formulas then you are losing folks. Like anything, they'll give it a few years to stabilise and then see for tweaks from there
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2412 - 14/05/2024 14:37:12 2544732 Link 0 |
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Hoganstand isn't the forum to get the point across on format changes. Most of the concepts mentioned are small changes that can be illustrated neatly on one page of a copybook.
SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 398 - 14/05/2024 16:01:57 2544756 Link 0 |
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Seems fair enough. Playing 4 rounds of league, a week off and then 4 more rounds of league will create the week off after the league finals that they are looking for. Rewarding provincial finalists with 2 home games is another straightforward enough incentive tweak for making provincial finals.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7911 - 14/05/2024 17:30:48 2544791 Link 0 |
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I didn't see that - could you please provide the link if you have it? - thanks. Separately, I know Gavin's FRC is tasked with playing rules only - competition structures are not part of their mandate - so it's disappointing if Burns prefers "head in the sand" than keeping an open mind on a better season competition flow. He could save his beloved Ulster while looking to improve outside - why not repeat the hurling model? - Ulster '3 of 5' (after playoffs to get in), Non-Ulster '3 of 5' (after playoffs to get in) and Next Best '2 of 6' (to Prelim QFs). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2640 - 14/05/2024 18:26:48 2544804 Link 0 |
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Actually, never mind - I found the 30-seconds odd video clip.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2640 - 14/05/2024 19:26:32 2544820 Link 0 |